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Valheru_Prince
30th October 2011, 05:06 PM
WTF

Target has a defense of 9bil, my SA was 10.2 bil. (more than 110% of his DA)

And ofcourse I still lost. Does this qualify as the most unlucky hit so far?

MaradoX-
31st October 2011, 04:31 PM
random ratio is a bit harsh sometimes, but hey, that's what makes it fun

yumad
1st November 2011, 01:47 AM
Actually no, I've done hits where I lost with 124% SA:DA. Not this age though.

Get used to random factors, use a safe margin (20%) and don't feel bad anymore because you are warned.

skiking
1st November 2011, 07:33 PM
im pretty sure the biggest roll is 10% both ways. So the attacker can lose 10% and defender can gain 10% (correct me if im wrong)

so say you have 124% of his da, for simple numbers you have 12.4b sa and he has 10b da.

10% loss on 12.4= 11.16b sa
10% gain on 10= 11b da

I did some estimates, and I think 22% higher sa=guarenteed win, unless their is some sort of defense event...thats another story

xshintenshix
1st November 2011, 07:51 PM
did u hit during rallying cry? haha those events are quite the pain sometimes

Overlord
2nd November 2011, 12:19 AM
im pretty sure the biggest roll is 10% both ways. So the attacker can lose 10% and defender can gain 10% (correct me if im wrong)

so say you have 124% of his da, for simple numbers you have 12.4b sa and he has 10b da.

10% loss on 12.4= 11.16b sa
10% gain on 10= 11b da

I did some estimates, and I think 22% higher sa=guarenteed win, unless their is some sort of defense event...thats another story

Close. 23% is guaranteed, 22% has a minimal chance of failure.

yumad
2nd November 2011, 03:59 AM
im pretty sure the biggest roll is 10% both ways. So the attacker can lose 10% and defender can gain 10% (correct me if im wrong)

so say you have 124% of his da, for simple numbers you have 12.4b sa and he has 10b da.

10% loss on 12.4= 11.16b sa
10% gain on 10= 11b da

I did some estimates, and I think 22% higher sa=guarenteed win, unless their is some sort of defense event...thats another story
Or if formulas change, but wait, they never do.


Or do they.

xshintenshix
3rd November 2011, 06:47 AM
the volatility of the attack strength to SA seems to be greater than the DA volatility: additionally the deviation seems to be stronger the higher your SA/DA goes? not too sure about specifics, haven't looked at actual formulas on roc before

Overlord
9th November 2011, 04:58 PM
the volatility of the attack strength to SA seems to be greater than the DA volatility: additionally the deviation seems to be stronger the higher your SA/DA goes? not too sure about specifics, haven't looked at actual formulas on roc before

SA and DA can swing by an equal percentage. Perceiving it differently is just confirmation bias.

At higher values, it can deviate by more action points (obviously), but the percentages don't change.