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andyt683
20th August 2010, 08:55 AM
I just sabbed your top 15. Bring it.

Bayern
20th August 2010, 08:56 AM
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OutlawDragon
20th August 2010, 09:43 AM
I just sabbed your top 15. Bring it.
=D your going down!

Jankster
20th August 2010, 10:09 AM
I think theres a thread for age 5 beta isnt there?
We actually play age 4 dont we?

RichOahu_ES
20th August 2010, 11:00 AM
I think theres a thread for age 5 beta isnt there?
We actually play age 4 dont we?

no.. all the cool kids were invited to beta early

the rest of us know about it now.

beta started a week ago.....

1 hour ago iJaZzMyself LOST 790,399,240 Gold 1,894 2,926 12,364,666 6,184,363 12
9 hours ago CrazyDave LOST 1,047,455,600 Gold 0 2,933 4,398,222,796 6,101,621 12
19 hours ago TheLoneSpirit LOST 1,043,347,161 Gold 0 2,917 21,592,892,540 5,973,308 12
1 day ago Rorschach LOST 820,965,950 Gold 8 2,870 3,275,407,235 5,959,029 12
1 day ago Rorschach LOST 926,924,689 Gold 16 2,801 1,917,558,314 5,770,749 12
1 day ago DiGiTaLDeMoN LOST 1,019,194,560 Gold 1 2,666 8,131,305,553 5,545,994 12
2 days ago Allatum LOST 860,256,180 Gold 1 2,690 3,066,281,510 5,467,724 12
2 days ago DiGiTaLDeMoN LOST 1,004,283,200 Gold 29 2,526 370,583,161 5,236,679 12
3 days ago Canadian_Nose LOST 847,675,140 Gold 0 2,531 83,325,796,851 5,076,231 12
3 days ago MajorHabs LOST 842,037,360 Gold 0 2,357 313,342,715,327 5,009,813 12
3 days ago MajorHabs LOST 541,830,280 Gold 0 2,269 308,662,899,150 4,833,745 12
4 days ago Canadian_Nose LOST 491,014,800 Gold 0 2,262 75,979,055,694 4,754,064 12
4 days ago ThePunisher LOST 781,213,760 Gold 8 2,228 2,215,755,171 4,596,006 12
4 days ago Show_Boat LOST 824,991,540 Gold 67 2,177 384,880,012 4,596,791 12
4 days ago stukka LOST 675,248,360 Gold 1 2,127 2,001,068,294 4,469,111 12
5 days ago bobxbob LOST 432,124,140 Gold 29 2,256 417,208,727 4,746,340 12
5 days ago ViralSt0rm LOST 1,002,445,760 Gold 0 2,112 103,147,963,662 4,381,692 12
5 days ago Mister_Wave LOST 804,791,440 Gold 14 1,949 1,370,932,503 4,100,724 12
6 days ago Renegade LOST 516,953,440 Gold 0 1,929 9,378,557,113 3,986,915 12
6 days ago ViralSt0rm LOST 980,718,780 Gold 0 1,904 98,648,501,076 3,949,331 12
6 days ago chaos_returns LOST 258,595,209 Gold 1,362 1,747 8,565,739 3,748,261 12
6 days ago TheFlash LOST 483,393,431 Gold 20 1,737 824,858,693 3,732,037 12
1 week ago Allatum LOST 690,707,100 Gold 200 1,699 87,974,982 3,639,539 12
1 week ago Shiningstar LOST 731,482,240 Gold 0 1,642 2,674,614,098 3,458,803 12
1 week ago kyzaa LOST 500,217,200 Gold 1 1,784 7,403,420,967 3,439,958 12
1 week ago Avenged-Sevenfold LOST 248,863,565 Gold 11 1,559 347,098,936 3,244,348 12
1 week ago RDXBigDesertedSoulToe LOST 159,309,235 Gold 125 1,588 477,643,566 3,347,708 12
1 week ago Antiwan LOST 586,674,680 Gold 852 1,520 10,134,198 3,237,649 12
1 week ago Decab LOST 493,640,040 Gold 31 1,490 491,582,591 3,171,478 12
1 week ago MatCauthon LOST 283,194,422 Gold 0 1,407 19,579,176,104 3,031,009 12

lordkill
20th August 2010, 11:21 AM
GL to both sides :D

dragonslayer33177
20th August 2010, 09:02 PM
i didnt get sabbed by anyone i feel left out:nono:

Gambino
20th August 2010, 09:06 PM
andyt683's troops inflict 325,762,036,846,294 defense strength on your army, killing 0 troops!

Psh. That ain't nothing... Right ALOT? Please tell me that ain't nothing...

dragonslayer33177
20th August 2010, 09:47 PM
nope i dont think it fazes ALOT

Nikon
20th August 2010, 11:25 PM
i didnt get sabbed by anyone i feel left out:nono:




start sabbing and you'll be loved!

zakske
21st August 2010, 02:40 AM
LOLOLOLOLOLOL 5 111,030
ALOT OF ALLIANCES 66 4,283

looks like ALOT has a good chance

tintinitis
21st August 2010, 11:29 AM
andyt683's troops inflict 325,762,036,846,294 defense strength on your army, killing 0 troops!

Psh. That ain't nothing... Right ALOT? Please tell me that ain't nothing...

It's much easier when you give yourself 12b soldiers at the very beginning - So I am laughing ALOT.

Yet another silly reason mods should not be players.

Vrasp
21st August 2010, 12:18 PM
It's much easier when you give yourself 12b soldiers at the very beginning - So I am laughing ALOT.

Yet another silly reason mods should not be players.

lol, can't even have fun in a beta that hadn't been announced yet. terrible.

gaby
21st August 2010, 01:34 PM
andyt683's troops inflict 325,762,036,846,294 defense strength on your army, killing 0 troops!

Psh. That ain't nothing... Right ALOT? Please tell me that ain't nothing...

Ehmm.. I bet it only felt like being tickled.

RichOahu_ES
21st August 2010, 05:05 PM
nevermind

R1DD1CK
21st August 2010, 05:10 PM
I play this age, and when the time comes I will play that age.

Cant be arsed funking about with getting it right any more.

7 freaking yrs of caring got me nowhere.

andyt683
21st August 2010, 07:39 PM
It's much easier when you give yourself 12b soldiers at the very beginning - So I am laughing ALOT.

Yet another silly reason mods should not be players.

on advice from my lawyer/random dutch person, comment retracted.

M3J
21st August 2010, 08:02 PM
It's much easier when you give yourself 12b soldiers at the very beginning - So I am laughing ALOT.

Yet another silly reason mods should not be players.

lolumad

andyt683
21st August 2010, 08:05 PM
lolumad

lolhemad

gaby
21st August 2010, 08:08 PM
on advice from my lawyer/random dutch person, comment retracted.

<3

cavalier5
21st August 2010, 09:51 PM
lolhemad

Lolheb1tchy

t0msky
22nd August 2010, 04:16 AM
It's much easier when you give yourself 12b soldiers at the very beginning - So I am laughing ALOT.

Yet another silly reason mods should not be players.

fuckoff idiot.....

im happy to take the infraction in defence of the admins on this one a little help for lol

Your spies sneak into Gambino's command center, and sabotage 780 Dragonskins. x6
Your spies sneak into Gambino's command center, and sabotage 780 Dragonskins and are captured. x2

Your spies sneak into unlimited's command center, and sabotage 171 Dragonskins. x10
Your spies sneak into unlimited's command center, and sabotage 171 Dragonskins and are captured.

Your spies sneak into DeSeRt-RaT's command center, and sabotage 780 Dragonskins. x15

Your spies sneak into M3J's command center, and sabotage 233 Dragonskins. x10
Your spies sneak into M3J's command center, and sabotage 233 Dragonskins and are captured.

Your spies sneak into Tintin's command center, and sabotage 165 Dragonskins. x6
Your spies sneak into Tintin's command center, and sabotage 165 Dragonskins and are captured. x2

Your spies sneak into KrOniKle's command center, and sabotage 124 Dragonskins. x11
Your spies sneak into KrOniKle's command center, and sabotage 124 Dragonskins and are captured.

Your spies sneak into CrazyDave's command center, and sabotage 144 Dragonskins. x10
Your spies sneak into CrazyDave's command center, and sabotage 144 Dragonskins and are captured. x2

Your spies sneak into TheLoneSpirit's command center, and sabotage 217 Dragonskins. x6
Your spies sneak into TheLoneSpirit's command center, and sabotage 217 Dragonskins and are captured. x2

andyt683
22nd August 2010, 06:18 AM
It's much easier when you give yourself 12b soldiers at the very beginning - So I am laughing ALOT.

Yet another silly reason mods should not be players.


Just so everyone is clear on what a beta is: Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Beta) has a great definition.

1. Testing sab limits required me to have a large spy in order to sab the limited number of players successfully.

If you're going to raise your spy to always succeed, you might as well put it at an obscenely high number.
I reset after I tested (but had to raise myself up again after I changed the limits)

2. Rouen and I handed out lots of weapons to get people started quickly. A major complaint of prior betas were they only tested low TFF armies, and formulas that were tested fell apart at high TFF.

3. A full scale war in beta, while silly, provides an excellent reason for people to play more and give us more feedback. If it was a beta where everyone just clicked and banked, then it would be of no use to me.

4. BETA ISN'T RANKED, AND THE ONLY REASON FOR PLAYING IT IS TO GIVE US FEEDBACK FOR NEW FEATURES. I can't make this one any clearer. If you want to tie our hands behind our back when we test stuff, by throwing "omg cheating" every time we need to test stuff, you're going to get a shitty, undertested game that no one plays because nothing works right.

From now on, I think I'm going to be deleting and infracting people that throw cheating accusations around. Most people took the hint and cleaned up their act, but we still have a few sour grapes kicking around.

R1DD1CK
22nd August 2010, 09:33 AM
Just so everyone is clear on what a beta is: Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Beta) has a great definition.

1. Testing sab limits required me to have a large spy in order to sab the limited number of players successfully.

If you're going to raise your spy to always succeed, you might as well put it at an obscenely high number.
I reset after I tested (but had to raise myself up again after I changed the limits)

2. Rouen and I handed out lots of weapons to get people started quickly. A major complaint of prior betas were they only tested low TFF armies, and formulas that were tested fell apart at high TFF.

3. A full scale war in beta, while silly, provides an excellent reason for people to play more and give us more feedback. If it was a beta where everyone just clicked and banked, then it would be of no use to me.

4. BETA ISN'T RANKED, AND THE ONLY REASON FOR PLAYING IT IS TO GIVE US FEEDBACK FOR NEW FEATURES. I can't make this one any clearer. If you want to tie our hands behind our back when we test stuff, by throwing "omg cheating" every time we need to test stuff, you're going to get a shitty, undertested game that no one plays because nothing works right.

From now on, I think I'm going to be deleting and infracting people that throw cheating accusations around. Most people took the hint and cleaned up their act, but we still have a few sour grapes kicking around.

Totally agree with this post.

It's a damn "Beta" Testing ground for the real event!

If teh boss wants to spice it up a bit for testing purposes then "God bless him" for putting in time and effort tintinitis!

Destro
22nd August 2010, 11:38 PM
if you cant say anything in ONE post don't say anything at all

tintinitis
24th August 2010, 05:57 PM
Totally agree with this post.

It's a damn "Beta" Testing ground for the real event!

If teh boss wants to spice it up a bit for testing purposes then "God bless him" for putting in time and effort tintinitis!

Apparently some of my posts have gone missing. And I have a great tagline that reads bad attitude.

I get that beta is for testing. I also get abuse of power.

Deserted
27th August 2010, 04:31 PM
Just so everyone is clear on what a beta is: Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle#Beta) has a great definition.

1. Testing sab limits required me to have a large spy in order to sab the limited number of players successfully.

If you're going to raise your spy to always succeed, you might as well put it at an obscenely high number.
I reset after I tested (but had to raise myself up again after I changed the limits)

2. Rouen and I handed out lots of weapons to get people started quickly. A major complaint of prior betas were they only tested low TFF armies, and formulas that were tested fell apart at high TFF.

3. A full scale war in beta, while silly, provides an excellent reason for people to play more and give us more feedback. If it was a beta where everyone just clicked and banked, then it would be of no use to me.

4. BETA ISN'T RANKED, AND THE ONLY REASON FOR PLAYING IT IS TO GIVE US FEEDBACK FOR NEW FEATURES. I can't make this one any clearer. If you want to tie our hands behind our back when we test stuff, by throwing "omg cheating" every time we need to test stuff, you're going to get a shitty, undertested game that no one plays because nothing works right.

From now on, I think I'm going to be deleting and infracting people that throw cheating accusations around. Most people took the hint and cleaned up their act, but we still have a few sour grapes kicking around.

I think all of this shows how little you actually know about beta testing.

Beta is supposed to be the final product which is then tested in the real world. This is after all of the bugs are fixed after going through unit testing and then system testing (which would vary in name depending on environment).

Once you get to Beta you are reasonably happy with how things work but then want final confirmation by releasing to a suitable size sample of users to give it a "real world" test.

Now lets look at what you did in beta, first of all you copied all of the accounts across from Age 4 which would have been an excellent basis for testing, these are all real world accounts, created from months of work and would show a typical balance of accounts.

However, you then deviated from real world by:

1) Deleting all weapons, this then made all SOV zero and affected the amount of weapons or tools that you can sab.
2) Giving some people 100m, 200m or more soldiers which nobody would ever achieve in a normal age.

After this all got out of hand you then reset the beta, but included the "mudkipz" bonus. All this achieved was to accelerate the rate of TFF without the appropriate sell off value. This then skewed any calculations that you had copied or amended from the previous age.

If you are actually serious about testing the changes rather than just extending people's e-penis then just stick to copying over REAL WORLD accounts and then testing it from there. Giving people 100 million men or 2 billion daggers is just going to create an artifical environment that may expose flaws in the calculations in a real age.

A full scale war with artificial accounts will prove absolutely NOTHING. It proves that artificial accounts behave in x way but doesn't show how a REAL account would react to the calculations.

And yes, unless you test it properly you are going to end up with a "shitty, undertested game that no one plays because nothing works right".

Feel free to infract/ban/suspend me. I only say this because I used to enjoy this game but fail to see it is going in the right direction.

RDXBigDesertedSoulToe
aka http://ruinsofchaos.com/stats.php?id=21421