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OutlawDragon
28th June 2010, 08:59 PM
So that both sides can flame each other. (cause thats the best part)

I don't know why this war started and I don't care. Lets just have some fun sabbing/flaming and sexting each other. (That last picture that Habs sent me was realy realy naughty)

Despite all of the hate and dumb little school girl fights between ES and TSM I still <3 you both.

So lets all flame each other and have fun cause it only a game.

habs = filthy canadian :P


TSM & WP 60 92
THE GIFTED ONES 10 6

VS.

Viral st0rMs 28 40
.The Firm. 25 39
EliteSabbers 61 76

luigi
28th June 2010, 09:09 PM
23:08 ›(~habs)bleh arguing on GUA with t0msky is like arguing with a retarded kid

R1DD1CK
28th June 2010, 10:02 PM
I just don't want to see checkman being manipulated :)

St0rm_of_Posiedon
28th June 2010, 11:16 PM
I heard t0msky was spreading lies and rumors about this war....but i can't find them in here <_<

Apparently there was a claim the war started with TSM at 68 members, which it did indeed. Here's how the membership panned out:

Alliance Bulletin from 3 days ago:
Huskerst0rm first read this message 3 days 23 hours 48 minutes 23 seconds ago
Ironically, every member of this alliance is a NEW MEMBER because we recreated it today :). Everybody in all of the alliances coming together are entitled to everything that TSM previously offered with hit lists/sab lists/ hit finders etc. It's time to celebrate our new union and new creation! We are going to get it started with a click contest and then move into a slay contest.

1) The click contest runs Saturday and Sunday on server time! You can check Grandma's bulletin entitled "Click Comp !!!". The more of you who participate, the more prizes we will have to hand out :). Right now we have about 300k in prizes.

2) A slay contest will follow the click contest on Tues and Wed. Andregord came to us with an idea to have the contest and offered to sponsor four size categories. I, or another member, will sponsor the other two. This means there will be size categories based on TFF for the slay contest. The winner of each category will receive 10k, there may be a prize for runner-ups as well. The alliance will attempt to provide a member with 2bil+ spy in IRC(roc chat) for the duration of the contest to help those without spy find excellent hits.

3) TSM is doing some "spring cleaning". Each new age breeds inactivity in old accounts. We are used to having 20+ accounts in the top 200, but this age struggled to meet that mark and added a few other alliances to help get our numbers and strength up. Members ranked worse than 200 need to send me a message if you wish to remain in TSM within the next 24 hours. You are excluded from this "cleansing" if you A) received a sell B) Just merged into the alliance C) message me.

One last note, I have sold my account to accounts in a total of 11billion now so that they may get their UP's. I made agreements with most to receive sells from them at the end of the age or to give them to whomever we agree is our main (you know who you are). If you are interested in a similar deal still, contact me. My account needs to be rebuilt eventually, but for now I can still sell if anybody REALLY needs it.

I look forward to what is shaping up to be a great age!

Yours in Chaos,
Huskerst0rm aka Brock



That PM led to the removal of 6 accounts from the alliance. Figjam left due to some lack of figuring out some details:

"I had expected you to reply to my last message and allowed time but it appears that you have nothing further to say.

Consequently as I am not getting CB nor any other benefits from being in chain and carrying the TSM tag but only troubles, I have left to continue as a soloist. This is not a reflection on my opinion of you as an individual. As I tried to make clear in my previous message, at least I have found someone who keeps their word. I have found TSM lacking in a few areas but will not make any suggests for fear of offending but instead will make these comments available if asked.

I am still considering offering YOU my sell at game end. This is for you to do with as you see fit and in no way because you belong to TSM as I offered them (majorglitch) my sell at the end of last age together with the TOTAL sell from another alliance but she said she'd get back to me and never did. I subsequently found that she sold to everything to RF the next day.

We need to talk later re next age. Plenty of time for that though.

figjam"


and Iena went on vacation mode until the 4th.


I think that covers the membership discrepencies?

t0msky
29th June 2010, 05:44 AM
nice post storms, i pointed the difference in clan size since the war started, how that difference occurs is another matter, which oyu seem to have answered.
it still doesnt alter the fact that at best 5 ppl have sabbed me from tsm and it also doesnt answer the fact that tsm didnt speak to their in chain allies concerning making plans to war ES, id still like to know why those plans were made perhaps husker or the southpark canadian habs can come tell us.

[12:45pm] <~ESBOT> Total Gold sabbed on #es-private is: 16,633,204,000 Gold.
[12:45pm] <~ESBOT> A total of 41,277,106,919 Gold was stolen in #es-private.

not all people post their sabs and not all gold is from TSM/WP

this is just logs posted on irc and is not a total sabbed by all members as not everyone posts on irc

luigi
29th June 2010, 05:57 AM
As i said to you on IRC. There was no war plans. You're just not capable of understanding what I'm saying.

and I"ll state the 2nd post of this thread

bye

R1DD1CK
29th June 2010, 06:13 AM
OK, I bought some DA.

Gloves off time, If TSM want a war I have summit worth sabbing.

If, as I think, TSM didn't start this war I'll presume I'm quite safe atm.

So far I've been sabbed by the delinquent's alliance, NO TSM sabs thus far!


I'm not a gambler by choice but, I'm betting TSM didn't want, nor start this war.

Brock? hehe, male badgar <_< 2 accouns husk? shss. I wont tell.

Darkness
29th June 2010, 06:35 AM
Tomsky was disobeying the AA's of certain TSM members. TSM decided to put tomsky on their official 3 day sab list. As a repeating offender, actions against him continued, since his actions against TSM continued. He was thereby not taken off the list. He got pissed off, and so he started sabbing all members of TSM. War was declared. ES started. End.

Bayern
29th June 2010, 07:10 AM
u guys approved him for 6 days O_o and then u say ES started the war ROFL @ U!!!!

Darkness
29th June 2010, 07:13 AM
Are we supposed to let him knowingly ignore our AA's? He started it when he intentionally violated the AA's of several TSM members. And he kept going afterward. So what does it all go back to? Tomsky.

Bayern
29th June 2010, 07:24 AM
im sure a TSM member hit an es member more than once a week in violation of their AAs :P so they sabbed back so TSM's problem
we can keep on going like this
thing is TSM started this war and its clear so dont deny it ;)

OutlawDragon
29th June 2010, 10:21 AM
Are we supposed to let him knowingly ignore our AA's? He started it when he intentionally violated the AA's of several TSM members. And he kept going afterward. So what does it all go back to? Tomsky.

Lets just go through 1 page of my attack logs and see how many TSM are intentionally violating my AA. If I felt like going back through 4-5 pages I would find alot more.

1 day ago Jesus LOST 74,638,244 Gold 50 176 563,912,747 220,143,263 12
1 day ago Jesus LOST 4,390,619 Gold 67 183 532,875,224 221,360,022 1
2 days ago Jesus LOST 0 Gold 99 228 325,259,521 224,086,216 12
3 days ago Jesus LOST 72,514,638 Gold 98 214 303,542,989 227,628,292 12

2 days ago iPro_Slaying_M4CHiN3_ LOST 98,756,976 Gold 156 196 1,472,095,013 219,610,280 12
3 days ago iPro_Slaying_M4CHiN3_ LOST 95,060,514 Gold 197 183 1,140,975,534 227,651,041 12


Seems to me that TSM wants people to follow thier AA's but don't like to follow other peoples.. how can you justify that?

Jankster
29th June 2010, 10:36 AM
AA like this started it!!

You have been sabbed because of one of the following reasons:
Attack for under 3 turns gold gets you added for 3 days.
Appear in 3 members logs withing 24hrs gets you added for 3 days.
Appear in a members logs 3 times a week gets you added for 3 days.
All persons added are removed after 3 days automatically.
Avoid being added to the list by respecting our members' AA

As I read the other post on this thread, you are not alowed to sab back, then you get on list another 3 day´s.

Wow TSM will get alot of actions rest of age..

t0msky
29th June 2010, 11:26 AM
seriously whos AA did i ignore ?
the only person ui sabbed in tsm until the war was habs little account and that was for him farming ES members.
i have posted the logs of husker asking about whether rf will help ES when they war us, seriously do you expect that to go unanswered ?
as far as posting me on any board for sabs u better believe i chain and the first and only person to sab me in regards to me being on someones board for sabs was badger and yes i chained the xecond i saw him in my logs, which was after we had huskers and also after the request for war on tsm had gone in, this doesnt go back to me this goes back to tsm thinking they have a fighting clan when in reality they have one person i actually respect and the rest are (edited out what the rest are dont want anoher infraction)

Juvi9le
29th June 2010, 11:38 AM
Well it's usually not very smart to add the leader of a sab chain to a sab list, imo. Sometimes you just have to take a hit... lol Not like he uses his turns wisely lol
4 days ago t0msky_ES LOST 167,505,857 Gold
3 days ago AoD LOST 346,184,624 Gold
Same DA just different attemps lol

Anyways I am happy i get something to read on gua lol... it's been pretty slow lately, now we have bathroom material :)

St0rm_of_Posiedon
29th June 2010, 12:29 PM
I'm not a gambler by choice but, I'm betting TSM didn't want, nor start this war.

Brock? hehe, male badgar <_< 2 accouns husk? shss. I wont tell.

TSM def didn't start the war. Nor did we sab first.

And clever on that. Believe it or not my name is Brock Smith and Badger's last name is also Smith. It's a crazy coincidence. I live in kansas City Missouri and he lives somewhere in KS. Pretter crazy! Bonded us a bit.



There were no war plans. Somehow, 2 days before the war I thought i was sabbed by 5 ES members. It was really 4 ES members with T0msky recon'n in the middle of them over a period of about 30 minutes. Except I wasn't on their sab list. I immediately sent messages to VS and RF explaining that it was just ES being stupid and that we were not doing anything to instigate a war. I asked them to stay out and leave it between TSM and ES if it did escalate to a war, which they have done. T0msky then posts the logs which bayern either gave him or put on the ES forum from my conversation and claims that we are planning war. It's very apparent by the conversation that there is indeed no plan in place, but merely a request to stay out should one happen. Which seems to be a natural conclusion after what appears to be 5 sabs (only 4 for real) on me in 30 minutes from the same alliance with no attacks or anything made.

The end. ES starts the war and somehow claims TSM started it. ES=BS <BSS


Lets just go through 1 page of my attack logs and see how many TSM are intentionally violating my AA. If I felt like going back through 4-5 pages I would find alot more.

1 day ago Jesus LOST 74,638,244 Gold 50 176 563,912,747 220,143,263 12
1 day ago Jesus LOST 4,390,619 Gold 67 183 532,875,224 221,360,022 1
2 days ago Jesus LOST 0 Gold 99 228 325,259,521 224,086,216 12
3 days ago Jesus LOST 72,514,638 Gold 98 214 303,542,989 227,628,292 12

2 days ago iPro_Slaying_M4CHiN3_ LOST 98,756,976 Gold 156 196 1,472,095,013 219,610,280 12
3 days ago iPro_Slaying_M4CHiN3_ LOST 95,060,514 Gold 197 183 1,140,975,534 227,651,041 12


Seems to me that TSM wants people to follow thier AA's but don't like to follow other peoples.. how can you justify that?



You are on our hit list for violating AA's. We are recommending that our alliance violate your AA. That is the reason for the hits.


im sure a TSM member hit an es member more than once a week in violation of their AAs :P so they sabbed back so TSM's problem
we can keep on going like this
thing is TSM started this war and its clear so dont deny it ;)

There were actually 3 TSM members on the list at the time i believe: Badger, Baium, and somebody else whom i forgot. We hadn't responded as an alliance to those actions because it was between them and the AA's they had violated....wheras AOD and others in ES violate our AA, which is less stringent than their own, get sabbed, and then bring the rest of their alliance to those that sabbed them. Then they claim we start the war, and mass us. They just like to instigate issues and sab people cuz they are trashy. Typical white trash syndrome.

OutlawDragon
29th June 2010, 12:48 PM
You are on our hit list for violating AA's. We are recommending that our alliance violate your AA. That is the reason for the hits.

I find that hard to believe because the first TSM person that I hit this entire age was you.. AFTER both of them had already farmed me.. But if you can some how come up with logs of me breaking someone in TSM's AA before they did that post um so that we all can see.

So I guess you need another excuse on why TSM can break other peoples AA's and then complain when people break thiers?

Checkman
29th June 2010, 01:13 PM
I have to say that I think that prior to this whole situation starting, TSM were pushing the boundaries a little too.


1 week ago CrazyDave None Yes
10 hours ago Huskerst0rm Sabotage Captured 1 1
i have done nothing to break their rules.... but somehow have made it onto the TSM's sab list.


To: Huskerst0rm Sent: 1 week 1 day 58 minutes 43 seconds ago Subject: None
Huskerst0rm first read this message 1 week 1 day 51 minutes 42 seconds ago
hi husker
I am wondering why you sabbed CrazyDave - he does not know why so I am asking
cheers
elfie


1 week ago Huskerst0rm Re: None Yes
He and I have been discussing it for about 20 PM's now :)
But he's on our hitlist. I just aim and shoot at who I'm told this age. Last age i managed the sab/hit list....this age i dont

So - naturally I ask who to speak to to sort it out.


1 week ago Huskerst0rm Re: None Yes
Well, i've now been told that she's not receiving PM's about people on our hitlist this age. They just are for 3 days and then they are removed. Not really my call.


To: Huskerst0rm Sent: 1 week 1 day 4 minutes 49 seconds ago Subject: Re: None
Huskerst0rm first read this message 1 week 1 day 4 minutes 1 second ago
well I think that crazydave has a right to know why he is on there


1 week ago Huskerst0rm Re: None Yes
I don't necessarily disagree. I know that it's for hitting. Everyday, our members send logs to MG. She has a program that files the logs to see what players are not only farming individual members, but farming our alliance. It's possible that if he hit too many members in TSM during the same few days that he ended up on the list as well. other than that, his logs should be pretty explicit as to why he ended up on the list.
TSM motto: If you're in our logs, we'll be in yours.
It just wasn't enforced in the beta.


1 week ago CrazyDave Re: TSM Yes
2 days ago C-j-R-u-A-n-Z-k-Y-y WON 11,348,000 Gold 439 220 27,994,508 46,324,093 12
2 days ago anteraz WON 32,146,134 Gold 2,044 210 24,118,778 39,291,894 12
2 days ago Guille WON 11,834,563 Gold 138 7 158,114 15,197,786 12
2 days ago DarkWizard WON 13,517,756 Gold 78 5 126,209 14,946,898 12
2 days ago Andregord WON 22,659,200 Gold 44 669 14,433,857 16,498,255 12
3 days ago Camisado WON 8,477,532 Gold 79 1 41,692 15,255,086 12
3 days ago TheRealGoat-RF WON 11,512,161 Gold 145 3 78,359 14,887,836 12
5 days ago Darkness_in_hotflux (not active) WON 13,584,138 Gold 33 47 1,558,757 9,887,951 12
5 days ago DarkWizard WON 8,276,250 Gold 91 4 145,077 10,037,520 12
5 days ago Andregord WON 10,882,260 Gold 325 283 9,627,511 9,879,351 12
5 days ago Ace- WON 13,474,578 Gold 103 258 8,727,415 9,839,195 12
5 days ago Tintin WON 11,124,000 Gold 52 205 6,941,623 9,512,236 12
5 days ago PrettyFox-RF WON 9,380,241 Gold 4 0 4,513 6,651,085 12
5 days ago Darkness_in_hotflux (not active) WON 12,836,720 Gold 32 210 1,566,256 2,128,424 12
6 days ago PrettyFox-RF WON 5,334,601 Gold 14 8 13,750 857,147 12
1 week ago EdThaSt0rm WON 16,264,240 Gold 747 11 807,192 14,533,726 12
1 week ago PrettyFox-RF WON 8,347,140 Gold 33 0 32,566 8,349,504 12
1 week ago neverdead_420 WON 12,746,980 Gold 39 1 64,328 7,427,482 12
1 week ago neverdead_420 WON 10,369,548 Gold 14 0 22,657 7,505,839 10
1 week ago neverdead_420 WON 6,222,398 Gold 14 0 23,130 6,745,270 12
1 week ago damon_8 WON 6,505,074 Gold 11 57 2,302,919 6,774,354 12
1 week ago damon_8 WON 8,676,648 Gold 11 103 2,296,379 3,704,489 12
1 week ago DareDevil WON 5,202,067 Gold 301 141 1,610,671 1,815,245 12
1 week ago Kalusha_in_Darkness (not active) FAIL attack 0 0 34,249,734 438,374 1
1 week ago Kalusha_in_Darkness (not active) FAIL attack 0 0 32,097,074 431,994 1
1 week ago Kalusha_in_Darkness (not active) FAIL attack 0 0 30,984,392 429,990 1
1 week ago Kalusha_in_Darkness (not active) FAIL attack 0 0 32,179,261 426,481 1
1 week ago Kalusha_in_Darkness (not active) FAIL attack 0 0 31,436,419 428,895 1
1 week ago King_of_Darkness (not active) FAIL attack 0 0 188,426,562 426,544 1
1 week ago King_of_Darkness (not active) FAIL attack 0 0 187,114,387 475,951 1
==================
ive already double checked...the only person in TSM is Andregord
and i attacked him 2 times this week with 3 days spacing... that does not break any of their battlefield rules
so for them to jump the gun is a little unecessary

So I would guess that based on this that CrazyDave was placed on a sab list, for the fact that he hit TSM targets 3 times in a week. If people want to put 3 times a week as a maximum, then fair play, but hit ANY TSM people totalling 3 in a week and you get sabbed, that is just plain unreasonable in a game with so few people.

He got sabbed, we didn't react at that point - despite wanting to.

Most people know that I am a reasonable sort of person, I will admit when I am wrong, even sort out situations relating to my alliance members at my own personal cost, but to have to adhere to rules such as those laid out in TSM's 'charter' - I doubt that we were the only ones who didn't.

Elfie

St0rm_of_Posiedon
29th June 2010, 01:26 PM
I have to say that I think that prior to this whole situation starting, TSM were pushing the boundaries a little too.


1 week ago CrazyDave None Yes
10 hours ago Huskerst0rm Sabotage Captured 1 1
i have done nothing to break their rules.... but somehow have made it onto the TSM's sab list.


To: Huskerst0rm Sent: 1 week 1 day 58 minutes 43 seconds ago Subject: None
Huskerst0rm first read this message 1 week 1 day 51 minutes 42 seconds ago
hi husker
I am wondering why you sabbed CrazyDave - he does not know why so I am asking
cheers
elfie


1 week ago Huskerst0rm Re: None Yes
He and I have been discussing it for about 20 PM's now :)
But he's on our hitlist. I just aim and shoot at who I'm told this age. Last age i managed the sab/hit list....this age i dont

So - naturally I ask who to speak to to sort it out.


1 week ago Huskerst0rm Re: None Yes
Well, i've now been told that she's not receiving PM's about people on our hitlist this age. They just are for 3 days and then they are removed. Not really my call.


To: Huskerst0rm Sent: 1 week 1 day 4 minutes 49 seconds ago Subject: Re: None
Huskerst0rm first read this message 1 week 1 day 4 minutes 1 second ago
well I think that crazydave has a right to know why he is on there


1 week ago Huskerst0rm Re: None Yes
I don't necessarily disagree. I know that it's for hitting. Everyday, our members send logs to MG. She has a program that files the logs to see what players are not only farming individual members, but farming our alliance. It's possible that if he hit too many members in TSM during the same few days that he ended up on the list as well. other than that, his logs should be pretty explicit as to why he ended up on the list.
TSM motto: If you're in our logs, we'll be in yours.
It just wasn't enforced in the beta.


1 week ago CrazyDave Re: TSM Yes
2 days ago C-j-R-u-A-n-Z-k-Y-y WON 11,348,000 Gold 439 220 27,994,508 46,324,093 12
2 days ago anteraz WON 32,146,134 Gold 2,044 210 24,118,778 39,291,894 12
2 days ago Guille WON 11,834,563 Gold 138 7 158,114 15,197,786 12
2 days ago DarkWizard WON 13,517,756 Gold 78 5 126,209 14,946,898 12
2 days ago Andregord WON 22,659,200 Gold 44 669 14,433,857 16,498,255 12
3 days ago Camisado WON 8,477,532 Gold 79 1 41,692 15,255,086 12
3 days ago TheRealGoat-RF WON 11,512,161 Gold 145 3 78,359 14,887,836 12
5 days ago Darkness_in_hotflux (not active) WON 13,584,138 Gold 33 47 1,558,757 9,887,951 12
5 days ago DarkWizard WON 8,276,250 Gold 91 4 145,077 10,037,520 12
5 days ago Andregord WON 10,882,260 Gold 325 283 9,627,511 9,879,351 12
5 days ago Ace- WON 13,474,578 Gold 103 258 8,727,415 9,839,195 12
5 days ago Tintin WON 11,124,000 Gold 52 205 6,941,623 9,512,236 12
5 days ago PrettyFox-RF WON 9,380,241 Gold 4 0 4,513 6,651,085 12
5 days ago Darkness_in_hotflux (not active) WON 12,836,720 Gold 32 210 1,566,256 2,128,424 12
6 days ago PrettyFox-RF WON 5,334,601 Gold 14 8 13,750 857,147 12
1 week ago EdThaSt0rm WON 16,264,240 Gold 747 11 807,192 14,533,726 12
1 week ago PrettyFox-RF WON 8,347,140 Gold 33 0 32,566 8,349,504 12
1 week ago neverdead_420 WON 12,746,980 Gold 39 1 64,328 7,427,482 12
1 week ago neverdead_420 WON 10,369,548 Gold 14 0 22,657 7,505,839 10
1 week ago neverdead_420 WON 6,222,398 Gold 14 0 23,130 6,745,270 12
1 week ago damon_8 WON 6,505,074 Gold 11 57 2,302,919 6,774,354 12
1 week ago damon_8 WON 8,676,648 Gold 11 103 2,296,379 3,704,489 12
1 week ago DareDevil WON 5,202,067 Gold 301 141 1,610,671 1,815,245 12
1 week ago Kalusha_in_Darkness (not active) FAIL attack 0 0 34,249,734 438,374 1
1 week ago Kalusha_in_Darkness (not active) FAIL attack 0 0 32,097,074 431,994 1
1 week ago Kalusha_in_Darkness (not active) FAIL attack 0 0 30,984,392 429,990 1
1 week ago Kalusha_in_Darkness (not active) FAIL attack 0 0 32,179,261 426,481 1
1 week ago Kalusha_in_Darkness (not active) FAIL attack 0 0 31,436,419 428,895 1
1 week ago King_of_Darkness (not active) FAIL attack 0 0 188,426,562 426,544 1
1 week ago King_of_Darkness (not active) FAIL attack 0 0 187,114,387 475,951 1
==================
ive already double checked...the only person in TSM is Andregord
and i attacked him 2 times this week with 3 days spacing... that does not break any of their battlefield rules
so for them to jump the gun is a little unecessary

So I would guess that based on this that CrazyDave was placed on a sab list, for the fact that he hit TSM targets 3 times in a week. If people want to put 3 times a week as a maximum, then fair play, but hit ANY TSM people totalling 3 in a week and you get sabbed, that is just plain unreasonable in a game with so few people.

He got sabbed, we didn't react at that point - despite wanting to.

Most people know that I am a reasonable sort of person, I will admit when I am wrong, even sort out situations relating to my alliance members at my own personal cost, but to have to adhere to rules such as those laid out in TSM's 'charter' - I doubt that we were the only ones who didn't.

Elfie

At that point we had about 40 ppl on our list. So you are very correct. Also, the only reason we have that policy is for ES and those aligned with ES. their ridiculous policies started the trend of ridiculous policies.

t0msky
29th June 2010, 01:31 PM
Well it's usually not very smart to add the leader of a sab chain to a sab list, imo. Sometimes you just have to take a hit... lol Not like he uses his turns wisely lol
4 days ago t0msky_ES LOST 167,505,857 Gold
3 days ago AoD LOST 346,184,624 Gold
Same DA just different attemps lol

Anyways I am happy i get something to read on gua lol... it's been pretty slow lately, now we have bathroom material :)

lol juvi i never said i was a good slayer ;p

husker for real m8 u go into other ppls irc and make a statement of hey guys when we war es will you not help them, you expect anyon not to take it as an indicator that your planning to war them, get a grip m8
and i could go and post logs of many tsm playing silly fuckers and thinking its ok to farm chain members, if you are to much of a girl to man up and admit you was planning to war us its all good, you can blame us we are big enouhg to carry that badge it wont worry us
face it husker you thought u had friends where there were none, the only person i now respect in tsm is habs at least he has the balls to say ya i did that and i did it to fuck with you, hes wasted in tsm he really is

lol so ur a wannabe es player now, we make the policy to bring war, if youre too stupid to know that then hey its all good, i remember another clan that tried to adopt es policies to try and be as good as us, funny how they never succeeded as clearly youre not, if your policy is for es only, then why dont u have it in your AA and if youre being all back of the bus, simply say if any es member hits for gold its war, then you can blame us for it, although we both know id hit you in the first 5 minutes of the age if ou had that, but then you dont got the nuts for a war on day one, u have to build some sentry so u feel all safe

St0rm_of_Posiedon
29th June 2010, 01:39 PM
lol juvi i never said i was a good slayer ;p

husker for real m8 u go into other ppls irc and make a statement of hey guys when we war es will you not help them, you expect anyon not to take it as an indicator that your planning to war them, get a grip m8
and i could go and post logs of many tsm playing silly fuckers and thinking its ok to farm chain members, if you are to much of a girl to man up and admit you was planning to war us its all good, you can blame us we are big enouhg to carry that badge it wont worry us
face it husker you thought u had friends where there were none, the only person i now respect in tsm is habs at least he has the balls to say ya i did that and i did it to fuck with you, hes wasted in tsm he really is

lol so ur a wannabe es player now, we make the policy to bring war, if youre too stupid to know that then hey its all good, i remember another clan that tried to adopt es policies to try and be as good as us, funny how they never succeeded as clearly youre not, if your policy is for es only, then why dont u have it in your AA and if youre being all back of the bus, simply say if any es member hits for gold its war, then you can blame us for it, although we both know id hit you in the first 5 minutes of the age if ou had that, but then you dont got the nuts for a war on day one, u have to build some sentry so u feel all safe

/me lolz.

you can't build your account fast enough to hang with me!

This war will last til the EOA. I'm okay with that :)

t0msky
29th June 2010, 01:52 PM
lol typical husker response, whilst ur growth will be stunted to a poinbt, your clans will be wrecked im guessing this is the the death of tsm after all only 5 of your clan are even sabbing and the rest of your clan wont have accounts to mention anyway, lets see how long before you change your attitude stud, one of the conditions for your surrender will be posting on gua, without that lover youre right you wont have peace, im tired of letting you walk away

luigi
29th June 2010, 02:15 PM
the only person i now respect in tsm is habs at least he has the balls to say ya i did that and i did it to fuck with you, hes wasted in tsm he really is


ill keep saying we werent planning on warring you guys, but hell, most in ES knows me ;) i do enjoy fucking with you guys ;) you're my favorite sluts :P just it get borings fucking the same sluts for so long :( that is why there are other people as well XD

Smitty
29th June 2010, 02:49 PM
lol typical husker response, whilst ur growth will be stunted to a poinbt, your clans will be wrecked im guessing this is the the death of tsm after all only 5 of your clan are even sabbing and the rest of your clan wont have accounts to mention anyway, lets see how long before you change your attitude stud, one of the conditions for your surrender will be posting on gua, without that lover youre right you wont have peace, im tired of letting you walk away

Care to compare sab totals?

Smitty
29th June 2010, 02:52 PM
So that both sides can flame each other. (cause thats the best part)

I don't know why this war started and I don't care. Lets just have some fun sabbing/flaming and sexting each other. (That last picture that Habs sent me was realy realy naughty)

Despite all of the hate and dumb little school girl fights between ES and TSM I still <3 you both.

So lets all flame each other and have fun cause it only a game.

habs = filthy canadian :P


TSM & WP 60 92
THE GIFTED ONES 10 6

VS.

Viral st0rMs 28 40
.The Firm. 25 39
EliteSabbers 61 76

Remove VS from the list. We have no war with them, nor TLL

Juvi9le
29th June 2010, 03:46 PM
lol tll isn't on the list :P the firm maybe? :P

R1DD1CK
29th June 2010, 03:47 PM
Remove VS from the list. We have no war with them, nor TLL

Not sure you realise this but,. in 3 pages now, Your post is the first time TLL were mentioned <_< Hmm.. it's come to this? Juvinile wants to war me? Someone fucked up If it was thought I was the enemy!

kjzaa
29th June 2010, 03:55 PM
Stop crying, start sabbing, have fun :P

OutlawDragon
29th June 2010, 04:34 PM
Remove VS from the list. We have no war with them, nor TLL

well VS has a war with you ;) I'm tired of letting all them TSM n00bs crap hit me.

St0rm_of_Posiedon
29th June 2010, 04:49 PM
lol typical husker response, whilst ur growth will be stunted to a poinbt, your clans will be wrecked im guessing this is the the death of tsm after all only 5 of your clan are even sabbing and the rest of your clan wont have accounts to mention anyway, lets see how long before you change your attitude stud, one of the conditions for your surrender will be posting on gua, without that lover youre right you wont have peace, im tired of letting you walk away

I sent out a bulletin requesting our members PM me if they were sabbing ES. It appears to be many more than 5, but most don't have the spy to sab you so don't. TSM will live on :)

Smitty
29th June 2010, 04:50 PM
Not sure you realise this but,. in 3 pages now, Your post is the first time TLL were mentioned <_< Hmm.. it's come to this? Juvinile wants to war me? Someone fucked up If it was thought I was the enemy!

I only mentioned TLL because they are in chain with ES.

luigi
29th June 2010, 06:03 PM
well VS has a war with you ;) I'm tired of letting all them TSM n00bs crap hit me.

I lack of VS in my logs my good old young friend XP

OutlawDragon
29th June 2010, 06:06 PM
I lack of VS in my logs my good old young friend XP

I could fix that if you want? You know I won't sab you tho <3



On a side note I had some fun with Badger today :P

52 minutes ago Badger WON 418 Gold 1,600 579 218,920,036 1,709,216,672 1
52 minutes ago Badger WON 452 Gold 1,597 590 222,752,938 1,673,739,539 1
52 minutes ago Badger WON 490 Gold 1,631 589 222,329,760 1,709,631,419 1
52 minutes ago Badger WON 531 Gold 1,565 577 218,069,203 1,672,409,590 1
52 minutes ago Badger WON 575 Gold 1,620 640 241,515,557 1,708,015,690 1

Then he of course

47 minutes ago Badger Sabotage Failure 22 10
47 minutes ago Badger Sabotage Failure 17 5
47 minutes ago Badger Sabotage Failure 17 7
47 minutes ago Badger Sabotage Captured 17 17

Well after that I join under Habs.. In the TSM chain and we have this convo.


39 minutes ago Badger I give you credit

Your 1x5 were five times more damaging to my coverts than BIG's was.


Badger Sent: 37 minutes 49 seconds ago Subject: Re: I give you credit
Badger first read this message 31 minutes 29 seconds ago

im in the same chain as you :O


25 minutes ago Badger oh crap

How did that happen? I don't get it.

I was only chaining ES and FIRM how in hell did I manage to see you??



To: Badger Sent: 25 minutes 45 seconds ago Subject: Re: when did you move
Badger first read this message 20 minutes 40 seconds ago

lol I'm just joking


19 minutes ago Badger you turkey

just for that me sabs you again tomorrow HAH


To: Badger Sent: 18 minutes 54 seconds ago Subject: Re: you turkeyi
Badger first read this message 18 minutes 39 seconds ago

LOL :p
I thought it was pretty funny


18 minutes ago Badger Re: you turkey

yeah it definitely was. You really had me going. roflmfao


:devil4::devil4::devil4::devil4::devil4::devil4:

RichOahu_ES
29th June 2010, 10:18 PM
/sigh

very boring war. i think 5 max have sabbed me, and only one more than two days in a row. pretty sad ;-) i admit on day one my spy and sentry were under 100mil..... but i STILL sabbed everyone of your accounts that were in my reach ;-) (except those that are rank 700+)


hey badger! sab totals? show us them if the war lasts more than a week. you always come on strong to start.. then stop ;-)

we will not stop.

i am just getting started ;-)

didn't start playing till june 19th so i am a bit behind. but i am getting there.........

luigi
29th June 2010, 10:50 PM
/sigh

very boring war. i think 5 max have sabbed me, and only one more than two days in a row. pretty sad ;-) i admit on day one my spy and sentry were under 100mil..... but i STILL sabbed everyone of your accounts that were in my reach ;-) (except those that are rank 700+)


hey badger! sab totals? show us them if the war lasts more than a week. you always come on strong to start.. then stop ;-)

we will not stop.

i am just getting started ;-)

didn't start playing till june 19th so i am a bit behind. but i am getting there.........

you guys always stop at some point just like me, cause it gets boring. Stop lying to yourself.

also noone sabbing you cause you aint worth it

St0rm_of_Posiedon
30th June 2010, 02:12 AM
If i remember right both alliances last age trailed off after 3 weeks. If you guys can manage to bring it for longer than that i'll be impressed.

t0msky
30th June 2010, 06:43 AM
husker, we didnt trail off on sabbing tsm last age, sabbed you all until the last day and the reset, only difference then was u had a clan now you have a lot of accounts not ready fro war and not sabbing, at least last age tsm did actually sab for a week before giving up, this age it seems you have all given up before its even really got going....
anyhow lets just enjoy the game and please try and get more of your clan sabbing this is embarrassing for you guys

[1:42pm] <~ESBOT> Total Gold sabbed on #es-private is: 21,786,573,000 Gold.
[1:42pm] <~ESBOT> A total of 50,513,554,558 Gold was stolen in #es-private.

luigi
30th June 2010, 06:58 AM
husker, we didnt trail off on sabbing tsm last age, sabbed you all until the last day and the reset, only difference then was u had a clan now you have a lot of accounts not ready fro war and not sabbing, at least last age tsm did actually sab for a week before giving up, this age it seems you have all given up before its even really got going....
anyhow lets just enjoy the game and please try and get more of your clan sabbing this is embarrassing for you guys

[1:42pm] <~ESBOT> Total Gold sabbed on #es-private is: 21,786,573,000 Gold.
[1:42pm] <~ESBOT> A total of 50,513,554,558 Gold was stolen in #es-private.

well i still got 10% of what u guys has sabbed, so im doing good ;)

dont forget to sab me t0msky u sabbed me more before the damn war!

you're embarrassing yourself.

btw, True King of sabber is not you, nor me, but BSS-Rulemachine... change that

Darkness
30th June 2010, 07:12 AM
Yeah, my spy doesn't allow for me to sab you higher guys, but I am doing my part in sabbing anyone in my reach. I'm enjoying myself, can't wait till my spy gets high enough for new targets :)

St0rm_of_Posiedon
30th June 2010, 07:38 AM
we've sabbed over 11bil from ES. Which is pretty impressive with all the shitty accounts you have.

Smitty
30th June 2010, 09:46 AM
/sigh

very boring war. i think 5 max have sabbed me, and only one more than two days in a row. pretty sad ;-) i admit on day one my spy and sentry were under 100mil..... but i STILL sabbed everyone of your accounts that were in my reach ;-) (except those that are rank 700+)


hey badger! sab totals? show us them if the war lasts more than a week. you always come on strong to start.. then stop ;-)

we will not stop.

i am just getting started ;-)

didn't start playing till june 19th so i am a bit behind. but i am getting there.........
Stopping....... whoever said anything about stopping.

Sure, Paul.... I'm not ashamed of my sab stats:

Sabotage Damage 4,758,267,000 Gold
Sabotage Cost 356,247,476 Gold

Now, let's see you guy's damages, IF ANY bahahahahah

RichOahu_ES
30th June 2010, 10:30 AM
you guys always stop at some point just like me, cause it gets boring. Stop lying to yourself.

also noone sabbing you cause you aint worth it

Translation: :i am too lazy to sab everyone because i don't care about my entire chain, just myself."

remember, everyone helped you get where you are with your account. and they are getting owned by this account YOU feel isn't worth sabbing.


come on badger, i have known you a long time. you are a total ranker, don't kid yourself ;-P

as far as trailing off last age? meh, i have no idea, took that age off.

Smitty
30th June 2010, 11:06 AM
come on badger, i have known you a long time. you are a total ranker, don't kid yourself ;-P

as far as trailing off last age? meh, i have no idea, took that age off.



haha, now that just ain't true KEY, I like to sab also as testified when in TLL, one of two top sabbers. Right Jank? I only chose HUMANS this age to see the differences in ELVES and HUMANS. Sure, I tried HUMANS in Koc, but there were no boosts for upgrading then.

kjzaa
30th June 2010, 12:16 PM
you guys always stop at some point just like me, cause it gets boring. Stop lying to yourself.

also noone sabbing you cause you aint worth it

Hmm yes we always stop sabbing i see your point :P


well i still got 10% of what u guys has sabbed, so im doing good ;)

dont forget to sab me t0msky u sabbed me more before the damn war!

you're embarrassing yourself.

btw, True King of sabber is not you, nor me, but BSS-Rulemachine... change that

Rule is a great sabber but he takes a hell of alot of sells to keep his account afloat at end of age ;)

Checkman
30th June 2010, 12:43 PM
Hi Badger man

As most people probably know, sabbing is not something that I am typically reknowned for, so this is pretty much new ground hence....

Sabotage Damage 3,273,222,000 Gold
Sabotage Cost 325,741,392 Gold

Not bad for a novice I thought.

kjzaa
30th June 2010, 01:01 PM
Sabotage Damage 4,683,095,000 Gold
Sabotage Cost 564,548,097 Gold

mine arent that great atm but would like to compare at the end of the war ;)
i guess my cost shows how little in terms of sabotage damage your chain gives, its still fun though :D

Smitty
30th June 2010, 01:06 PM
Hi Badger man

As most people probably know, sabbing is not something that I am typically reknowned for, so this is pretty much new ground hence....

Sabotage Damage 3,273,222,000 Gold
Sabotage Cost 325,741,392 Gold

Not bad for a novice I thought.

No, Elfie, I'd say that is a comparable stat. Good going. Hope to sab you again sometime :)

Smitty
30th June 2010, 01:07 PM
Sabotage Damage 4,683,095,000 Gold
Sabotage Cost 564,548,097 Gold

mine arent that great atm but would like to compare at the end of the war ;)
i guess my cost shows how little in terms of sabotage damage your chain gives, its still fun though :D

Yep, you and I have a good time at it. See ya tomorrow :)

St0rm_of_Posiedon
30th June 2010, 01:53 PM
am i wrong in thinking that sab cost is how much it costs you to sab ppl? that has nothing to do with how much we've sabbed from you if i'm not mistaken

Bayern
30th June 2010, 02:18 PM
first age u ever sabbed in husker?!

t0msky
30th June 2010, 02:52 PM
na husker is right, that cost is what u have incurred when sabbing its th damage to your weapons total each time you sab

to help tsm along we have been playing tag sab andare sabbing each other to give tsm some incentive currently C-j-R-u-A-n-Z-k-Y-y is it :)

4 hours ago C-j-R-u-A-n-Z-k-Y-y Sabotage Failure 10 2
4 hours ago C-j-R-u-A-n-Z-k-Y-y Sabotage Failure 10 1
4 hours ago C-j-R-u-A-n-Z-k-Y-y Sabotage Captured 10 10
4 hours ago C-j-R-u-A-n-Z-k-Y-y Sabotage Failure 10 2
4 hours ago C-j-R-u-A-n-Z-k-Y-y Sabotage Captured 10 10
4 hours ago C-j-R-u-A-n-Z-k-Y-y Sabotage Failure 10 2

Bayern
30th June 2010, 02:58 PM
i knw what it is tomsky :P But he has the nerve to ask! any roc guy knws what it is :P

kjzaa
30th June 2010, 03:17 PM
am i wrong in thinking that sab cost is how much it costs you to sab ppl? that has nothing to do with how much we've sabbed from you if i'm not mistaken

i was comparing my costs to my sabotage damage basically saying that your chain has nothing to sab hence why my costs are so high, compared to badgers who's is extremely low!

St0rm_of_Posiedon
30th June 2010, 04:02 PM
lol no. I'm a pretty solid sabber when that's my intent. It was kjzaa's post that confused me. I'd be shocked if he didn't know that, but it appears he doesnt.


/me lols and kjzaa assertion. It's soooo much easier to get value outa badger, mg, myself, grandma, profx, baium, etc than it is outa 2-3 ES accounts worth shit.

t0msky
30th June 2010, 04:10 PM
lol husker why have you put etc on the end of that list, thats all thats left of tsm m8 and if you wanna go compare values tsm is owned by es we got more rank and more accounts than the soon to be dead tsm

St0rm_of_Posiedon
30th June 2010, 04:45 PM
i'm counting 16 in the top 200 for TSM and 10 for ES... and 7 for firm. So about even if you include both of you.

That was just a click glance though

kjzaa
30th June 2010, 05:50 PM
lol no. I'm a pretty solid sabber when that's my intent. It was kjzaa's post that confused me. I'd be shocked if he didn't know that, but it appears he doesnt.


/me lols and kjzaa assertion. It's soooo much easier to get value outa badger, mg, myself, grandma, profx, baium, etc than it is outa 2-3 ES accounts worth shit.

Lol Husker the stats dont lie, go figure!
Go ask andyt if i knew that im sure he is sick of me complaining about the sabotage costs already ;)

St0rm_of_Posiedon
30th June 2010, 05:53 PM
i think the lower sab costs is contingent upon less spy weps.

kjzaa
30th June 2010, 05:58 PM
i think the lower sab costs is contingent upon less spy weps.

nope it is due to him not sabbing the lower ranked people or ES having higher value.

DiGiTaLDeMoN
30th June 2010, 07:27 PM
i'm counting 16 in the top 200 for TSM and 10 for ES... and 7 for firm. So about even if you include both of you.

That was just a click glance though

<- feeling left out here :ccc2:

St0rm_of_Posiedon
30th June 2010, 09:06 PM
<- feeling left out here :ccc2:

That's cuz i was referring to quality accounts :-P. JK

So that's 18v16 in the top 200

t0msky
1st July 2010, 03:55 AM
just by checking the alliance page i count 15 from es alone, then add firm and vs and we way above not sure where u find your numbers.
i had my best action from tsm yesterday, i had 3 of em sab me almost together, im assuming it was the tsm mass ;p

Smitty
1st July 2010, 06:36 AM
<- feeling left out here :ccc2:

Don't be, poor soul :)

Has anyone in ES checked those lower accounts for my sabbing.... might be agood idea.

Smitty
1st July 2010, 06:37 AM
just by checking the alliance page i count 15 from es alone, then add firm and vs and we way above not sure where u find your numbers.
i had my best action from tsm yesterday, i had 3 of em sab me almost together, im assuming it was the tsm mass ;p

Nah, the mass was postponed. Just a few of us in IRC decided we'd do some damages while we were together.

Checkman
1st July 2010, 09:45 AM
Don't be, poor soul :)

Has anyone in ES checked those lower accounts for my sabbing.... might be agood idea.

I know my guys say that you are in their logs Badger buddy.

As an aside - note your 'Ancient Mariner' tag there - what's the story?

Smitty
1st July 2010, 11:59 AM
I know my guys say that you are in their logs Badger buddy.

As an aside - note your 'Ancient Mariner' tag there - what's the story?

Older than dirt and served in the U.S. Navy in the 50's and 60's

Smitty
1st July 2010, 12:02 PM
That's cuz i was referring to quality accounts :-P. JK

So that's 18v16 in the top 200

You neglected to include the Alliance rankings:

ES : 62 members / 94 points in ranking
TSM-WP: 60 members / 111 points in ranking

ACrazyMoFo_Dave
1st July 2010, 05:21 PM
Referring to the Top 200 accounts in the war ES/VS/TF took a big jump ahead ;)


.Firm. Checkman 1,208,462 Elves ??? 1
.Firm. Airwolf 193,879 Humans ??? 49
.Firm. CrazyDave 508,288 Elves 277 67
.Firm. SpikeRTje 672,148 Elves ??? 72
.Firm. matter 317,986 Elves ??? 83
.Firm. Savage 670,997 Elves ??? 105
.Firm. gandalf 15,594 Humans 4,550,221 194

The Firm = 7

VS FreqZ 1,341,738 Elves ??? 8
VS OutlawDragon 636,607 Elves ??? 22
VS ViralSt0rm 487,257 Orcs ??? 53
VS matto 240,224 Elves 8,082 61
VS The_KeyMaker 39,760 Humans 184,034 74
VS DiGiTaLDeMoN 386,395 Elves ??? 175

Viral Storm = 6

**ES** Big 1,187,553 Elves ??? 26
**ES** tonyrodolfo 54,838 Elves ??? 35
**ES** kyzaa 914,397 Elves ??? 37
**ES** t0msky_ES 753,162 Elves ??? 43
**ES** Elitesabbers_ES 496,970 Elves ??? 44
**ES** Thief_Of_Gold 212,445 Humans 16,070,384 64
**ES** AoD 531,700 Elves ??? 65
**ES** DePutaMadre 437,728 Elves ??? 88
**ES** C-j-R-u-A-n-Z-k-Y-y 345,680 Elves ??? 119
**ES** halogen 57,600 Orcs 3,816,240 134
**ES** Theeinherjar01 58,463 Elves 15,396,274 137
**ES** PVC 16,137 Humans 3,834,844 144
**ES** Kippet_ES 273,894 Elves 11,452,800 158
**ES** kingychaos 382,178 Humans 21,773,197 165
**ES** midnight_sun 11,690 Humans 41,251 191

Elite Sabbers = 15

total 28

----------

TSM/WP XplodedSynapses 744,437 Elves ??? 10
TSM/WP Badger 262,109 Humans ??? 14
TSM/WP Baium 656,055 Humans ??? 41
TSM/WP majorglitch 1,921,069 Humans ??? 42
TSM/WP Huskerst0rm 1,883,323 Elves ??? 54
TSM/WP Grandma- 633,963 Orcs ??? 57
TSM/WP Shoedragon 362,728 Elves ??? 62
TSM/WP ROMVLVS 542,701 Elves ??? 118
TSM/WP indebara 548,663 Dwarves 89,227,056 121
TSM/WP YertleTheTurtle 1,478 Orcs 6,522,078 125
TSM/WP Jesus 22,960 Elves 32,165,852 133
TSM/WP anteraz 98,102 Elves 0 135
TSM/WP Border 464,666 Humans ??? 143
TSM/WP stukka 270,956 Humans ??? 173
TSM/WP rock 167,513 Dwarves 21,484,543 187
TSM/WP The_Dark_LordGTR 22,959 Humans 23,951,926 190
TSM/WP ApocalypseRiseing 5,309 Humans 28,000,225 195

The Silent Magicians & Wolf Pack = 17

X-MEN Chrome 46,465 Elves 7,557,125 198

The Gifted Ones = 1

Total = 18

----------

28 to 18.

Reguarding Alliance Points

Before:
Name Members Score
TSM & WP 60 92
THE GIFTED ONES 10 6

Total = 98

EliteSabbers 61 76
Viral st0rMs 28 40
.The Firm. 25 39

Total = 155


Now:
Name Members Score
TSM & WP 59 112
THE GIFTED ONES 10 8

Total = 120

EliteSabbers 62 98
.The Firm. 26 53
Viral st0rMs 30 52

Total = 203


TSM&WP has lost -1 member.
X-MEN has stayed with + - 0 members.

ES has gained +1 member.
TF has gained +1 member.
VS has gained +2 members.


Since the beginning,
TSM&WP/X-MEN has gained 12 points.

ES/VS/TF has gained 48 points.

================================================== ============

Let the stats do the talking ;)

we all know it is very hard to keep track of which ally is doing more damage to the other, but i can guarantee that TSM&WP/X-MEN are not winning at this point in time during the war

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/020/e/8/_staringcontest__revamp_by_stuck_in_suburbia.gif

-CrazyDave Admin of The Firm

Smitty
1st July 2010, 05:56 PM
Referring to the Top 200 accounts in the war ES/VS/TF took a big jump ahead ;)



28 to 18.

Reguarding Alliance Points

Before:
Name Members Score
TSM & WP 60 92
THE GIFTED ONES 10 6

Total = 98

EliteSabbers 61 76
Viral st0rMs 28 40
.The Firm. 25 39

Total = 155


Now:
Name Members Score
TSM & WP 59 112
THE GIFTED ONES 10 8

Total = 120

EliteSabbers 62 98
.The Firm. 26 53
Viral st0rMs 30 52

Total = 203


TSM&WP has lost -1 member.
X-MEN has stayed with + - 0 members.

ES has gained +1 member.
TF has gained +1 member.
VS has gained +2 members.


Since the beginning,
TSM&WP/X-MEN has gained 12 points.

ES/VS/TF has gained 48 points.

================================================== ============

Let the stats do the talking ;)

we all know it is very hard to keep track of which ally is doing more damage to the other, but i can guarantee that TSM&WP/X-MEN are not winning at this point in time during the war

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/020/e/8/_staringcontest__revamp_by_stuck_in_suburbia.gif

-CrazyDave Admin of The Firm

Actually Dave, we lost two members. I kicked two of them for not logging in for 2 weeks. One new member joined under me OK1U (another ex-TLL member... as many of WP are).

DiGiTaLDeMoN
1st July 2010, 06:33 PM
lol OK1U Is on our sab list before the war so wont make much difference

Smitty
1st July 2010, 08:41 PM
lol OK1U Is on our sab list before the war so wont make much difference

I know, he told me.

St0rm_of_Posiedon
1st July 2010, 08:52 PM
Why are you including x-men in this? 2/3 of their alliance isn't even in our chain...just a few that likes an old X-men player.

Also, it's much easier for multiple alliances to have/score points. When WP joined TSM it was worth like 50 points, but we got 17 or something out of it. I'm not sure adding points is an accurate representation since we are merely one alliance. It's obvious that 3 alliances should have points growing faster than 1 alliance.

ACrazyMoFo_Dave
1st July 2010, 09:05 PM
who said that having more points then the other alliance means you win the war??? no one...

i was just pointing out stats about both parties

St0rm_of_Posiedon
1st July 2010, 09:42 PM
and after the stats you insisted that you won the war. I was just saying it wasn't that apparent :)

Checkman
2nd July 2010, 12:18 AM
and after the stats you insisted that you won the war. I was just saying it wasn't that apparent :)

The stats thing I always find kind of a misnomer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misnomer) - the stats relate to so many in game things such as clicking, reconning I guess, sabbing, if one group isn't clicking for example and another is, the stats will never be balanced.

Alliance numbers falling could also just be because of the inactives dropping off.

Smitty
2nd July 2010, 12:39 AM
The stats thing I always find kind of a misnomer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misnomer) - the stats relate to so many in game things such as clicking, reconning I guess, sabbing, if one group isn't clicking for example and another is, the stats will never be balanced.

Alliance numbers falling could also just be because of the inactives dropping off.

Or being kicked off for inactivity.

Checkman
2nd July 2010, 12:49 AM
Or being kicked off for inactivity.

Shhhh - got me a few of them ;)

3 weeks ago, 1 week ago . . . . (and they're my admins - j/k)

Smitty
2nd July 2010, 07:50 AM
Shhhh - got me a few of them ;)

3 weeks ago, 1 week ago . . . . (and they're my admins - j/k)

http://smitty.ws/lmao.gif

And just now, two more bit the dust. No, Key, they didn't leave I kicked them :)

ViralSt0rm
2nd July 2010, 03:55 PM
This who thread is gay really.................. People want to post logs and blame this and that. t0msky, you replaced pigs being permed banned from GUA, we wouldnt have had fun without him flaming all those ages you were gone. husker, lol whoever is making your sab list to try and make sure it has who did what and days left on sablist :P

Finally, You all suck(TSM ES VS FIRM X-MEN ROC) for being on GUA for a game that doesnt even have 1000 players..... Hell, most of the 200 active in the game go all the way back to age 2-4 KOC. + the husker and t0msky idoits both were st0rms at one point :P

ACrazyMoFo_Dave
2nd July 2010, 09:28 PM
and after the stats you insisted that you won the war. I was just saying it wasn't that apparent :)

actually no. i never said we won the war, because the war is still continuing....


we all know it is very hard to keep track of which ally is doing more damage to the other, but i can guarantee that TSM&WP/X-MEN are not winning at this point in time during the war

St0rm_of_Posiedon
2nd July 2010, 09:40 PM
yes yes yes.... we all know it's still going. I meant: If, at this point in time, the war ended, you win due to the facts you presented. I just thought that was false. But indeed...the war is still going... You get some more love today?

ACrazyMoFo_Dave
2nd July 2010, 09:45 PM
yep i got some love... from the same 6 people that are sabbing me.

and im sabbing 50+ in return... so um yeah, wheres the love guys?

RichOahu_ES
2nd July 2010, 10:13 PM
yep i got some love... from the same 6 people that are sabbing me.

and im sabbing 50+ in return... so um yeah, wheres the love guys?

you got 6?

i win! i actually had 8 sab me in the last 24 hours. it was a record!

i think if you post on here, they get there panties in a bunch and you are "listed" and they come out in force! all 8 of them! for one day!



;-P

St0rm_of_Posiedon
3rd July 2010, 12:59 AM
lol typical husker response, whilst ur growth will be stunted to a poinbt, your clans will be wrecked im guessing this is the the death of tsm after all only 5 of your clan are even sabbing and the rest of your clan wont have accounts to mention anyway, lets see how long before you change your attitude stud, one of the conditions for your surrender will be posting on gua, without that lover youre right you wont have peace, im tired of letting you walk away


Dear love,

I want peace. I am posting on GUA my surrender in the war. We didn't come out in good numbers and it was a crying shame. Our only mass ended up getting postponed. You guys did an excellent job with your masses and took quite a bit out of us.

If actions continue 12 hours from now, I will have to assume you didn't accept the surrender and the war will resume from the TSM side.

RichOahu_ES
3rd July 2010, 02:43 AM
looks like ES wins, good job all!


close this.

all conditions set by t0m look to be met

ES rules:

A basic code of sabbing/attacking:

The following are guidelines of ES policy and when ES will back you up or consider a war finished. If you have been sabbed or farmed then ES will back you up providing you have not broken any of the following rules.

• We do not sab/threaten sabs to gain officers,
• We do not sab for one gold hit, farming is classed as more than one gold hit within a one week period. In this case it is recomended that members send a warning to the said farmer.
• We don't carry it on after the enemy has asked for it to be stopped,
• We don't sab to take someone's gold
• We don't ask for damages


TSM has used there "get out of jail free card" for the age.

kjzaa
3rd July 2010, 03:06 AM
really, i thought you would of lasted longer than that :(

Jankster
3rd July 2010, 04:23 AM
nahh kjzaa, its only the first round. later in age when peeps get very tired of being set on TSM sablist over and over again, this thread will wake up again!

t0msky
3rd July 2010, 05:35 AM
id like to say good war, but a good war means more people sab from the enemy chain, props to badger, he sabs every day regardless, even habs stopped sabbing :(
i hope you all have a good age this thread can be closed now

luigi
3rd July 2010, 07:42 AM
id like to say good war, but a good war means more people sab from the enemy chain, props to badger, he sabs every day regardless, even habs stopped sabbing :(
i hope you all have a good age this thread can be closed now

Sadly t0msky, I had to take care of some personal issues. I'm sorry. RL > RoC

Smitty
3rd July 2010, 08:50 AM
Hopefuly this will continue in the near future, it was fun. :)

My end of war sab stats:

Sabotage Damage 9,063,961,000 Gold
Sabotage Cost 757,431,981 Gold

What's yours?

Darkness
3rd July 2010, 08:59 AM
Eh, I had fun. Didn't have the spy to sab higher ES members, but did my part with people who were in reach of my spy I suppose.

Sabotage Damage 1,266,598,000 Gold
Sabotage Cost 49,960,452 Gold

Ending result. Time to build more spy! :rambo:

MaradoX-
3rd July 2010, 09:40 AM
As I understand it, he hit some of you guys under an AA, you put him on a sablist which made him mad.

YOU put him on a sablist. (TSM)
he hit some people, which is done by everyone in such a game, so it's your fault, not ES's fault.

Blame your bank-incompetent players...

Bayern
3rd July 2010, 10:00 AM
so badger u trained down from the war , wat now? :P hows ur 300k tff going for u? awesome move mate

Smitty
3rd July 2010, 11:31 AM
so badger u trained down from the war , wat now? :P hows ur 300k tff going for u? awesome move mate

It's going just great. I plan to train down again in a few days, it's been my style of playing since AGE 7 of KoC.
But got 1x5d in age 8 and lost over 30k of them with one 1x5. However, FURY informed me in ROC BETA 1 how to avoid this catastrophe and it works. Don't ask me how because I won't tell you... ask FURY.

If it works use it. Low TFF and high TBG is the item of the day.

And FYI, I had over 1.2m coverts before the war started, HAH

RichOahu_ES
3rd July 2010, 02:03 PM
badger wasn't the only one to train down

the OLD order of the day was low TFF and mediocre tbg

since the introduction of damage to tools when sabbing (and you do billions to your own tools when chaining), the need for even more tbg has been introduced. training down is now the single worst thing you can do IMO

if you are worried about a mass, train to attack and be sure your coverts are holding.

training down these days is a total knee jerk reaction, and an incorrect one that many still do.... /eye badger


have a safe and happy fourth everyone!

Smitty
3rd July 2010, 03:33 PM
badger wasn't the only one to train down

the OLD order of the day was low TFF and mediocre tbg

since the introduction of damage to tools when sabbing (and you do billions to your own tools when chaining), the need for even more tbg has been introduced. training down is now the single worst thing you can do IMO

if you are worried about a mass, train to attack and be sure your coverts are holding.

training down these days is a total knee jerk reaction, and an incorrect one that many still do.... /eye badger


have a safe and happy fourth everyone!

Well, son.... whatever works for you. :) The method taught me by FURY works, so I'll stick with it. To each his own eh?!?!

To reinterate: (KYZAA especially)

Sabotage Damage 9,063,961,000 Gold
Sabotage Cost 757,431,981 Gold

What's yours?

Checkman
3rd July 2010, 03:42 PM
For my part, my involvement in the 'events' left the following for me:
Sabotage Damage 4,709,354,000 Gold
Sabotage Cost 467,194,901 Gold

I have to say that XplodedSynapses, Badger, Grandma- - much respect for showing in my logs more than anyone else, and even majorglitch showed up once too. Not really sure that Majorpothead understands the association between spy and sentry as he had a go sabbing me, but bless him for trying.

I cannot express how proud I was of how my guys applied themselves to the task - we hopefully surprised a few with our persistence too.

Above all, as t0m said, most respect to Badger, that man knows the definition of persistence.

Good work to both sides.

Elfie

ACrazyMoFo_Dave
3rd July 2010, 05:06 PM
Elfie took the words right outta my mouth ^

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs4/i/2004/203/9/0/_flail__v2_0.gif

R1DD1CK
6th July 2010, 12:34 AM
badger wasn't the only one to train down

the OLD order of the day was low TFF and mediocre tbg

since the introduction of damage to tools when sabbing (and you do billions to your own tools when chaining), the need for even more tbg has been introduced. training down is now the single worst thing you can do IMO

if you are worried about a mass, train to attack and be sure your coverts are holding.

training down these days is a total knee jerk reaction


nice post key, totally agree with you on all points.

nice to see stats and damage posts back on this forum. it's where all nooby players log on to see how to play. active gua = active game ;)

well played everyone. i love you all. <3