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Seneca
15th December 2009, 02:56 PM
So after two ages of us warring them FF doesn't seem to have learned.

FF vs TFE/LGC, it's on again!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcFZWa8zH2w


Once upon a time at the foot of a great mountain, there was a town (KoC) where the people known as Happyfolk (TFE/LGC) lived.
Their very existence a mystery to the rest of the world, obscured as it was by great clouds. Here they played out their peaceful lives, innocent of the litany of excess and violence that was growing in the world below. To live in harmony with the spirit of the mountain called Monkey (Shane) was enough. Then one day Strangefolk (FF) arrived in the town. They came in camouflaged, hidden behind dark glasses, and no one noticed them; they only saw shadows. You see, without the truth of the eyes, the Happyfolk were blind.

Falling out of aeroplanes and hiding out in holes
Waiting for the sunset to come, people going home
Jump out from behind them, and shoot them in the head
Now everybody dancing the dance of the dead
The dance of the dead
The dance of the dead.

In time, the Strangefolk found their way into the higher reaches of the mountain, and it was there that they found the caves of unimaginable sincerity and beauty. By chance, they stumbled upon the place where all good souls come to rest. The Strangefolk, they coveted the jewels in these caves above all things, and soon they began to mine the mountain, it's rich seam fueling the chaos of their own world. Meanwhile, down in the town, the Happyfolk slept restlessly, their dreams invaded by shadowy figures digging away at their souls. Every day, people would wake and stare at the mountain. Why was it bringing darkness into their lives? And as the Strangefolk mined deeper and deeper into the mountain, holes began to appear, bringing with them a cold and bitter wind that chilled the very soul of the Monkey. For the first time, the Happyfolk felt fearful for, they knew that soon the Monkey would stir from its deep sleep. Then there came a sound. Distant first, it grew into castrophany so immense it could be heard far away in space. There were no screams. There was no time. The mountain called Monkey had spoken. There was only fire. And then, nothing. (How FF ends the war every time)

Oh, little town in U.S.A
The time has come to see
there's nothing you believe you want
But where were you when it all came down on me
Did you call me? No...

Who am I to post this? Some random!

ArxSerpens
15th December 2009, 03:00 PM
Indeed, 3 ages running now, this war is getting repetitive lol. Oh well, we can test sab formula some more, and its always good fun ^^

Who: TFE/LGC vs FF
When: From now until its beaten out of them.
Why: Being Strangefolk
How: Skills
Where: On the battlefield.
Duration: Beta?

Think I answered all good questions, might have missed a few though

Rasputin
15th December 2009, 03:00 PM
<3 seneca :P

blazed420
15th December 2009, 03:03 PM
Cool stuff.

Seneca
15th December 2009, 03:04 PM
Observations so far: Limited turns sucks. Oh well, low AATs, see you in a few hours :)

[22:06] <~AutomaticCreations> Seneca has sabbed for a total of: 88,300,000 gold in the last ermm... 4 hours,

Not that much, but it's okay I think.

Rasputin
15th December 2009, 03:06 PM
30mil in the last 10 minutes :P

AxEHeaD15
15th December 2009, 03:11 PM
We need to tell admins how this is working so they can tweak rules, so for the parties involved atm, how is sabbing working?

How about massing?

-AxE

A_A
15th December 2009, 03:19 PM
with the technology upgrades..the best way to describe massing is: they suck... i just caught sadi saying he just received 793k repairs from 180 turns on him. thats 4minutes of gold for him.

Seneca
15th December 2009, 03:20 PM
Massing is crap, Sabbing is fine so far.

The lack of turns is very, very bad.


30mil in the last 10 minutes :P

aww, cuty, you sabbed 2 accounts too?

EDIT:
Sablimits kicking in now.. lol. This sucks.

Rasputin
15th December 2009, 03:24 PM
now i have turns :P so if anyone buys weapons i'll be there!

Seneca
15th December 2009, 03:26 PM
now i have turns :P so if anyone buys weapons i'll be there!

I have some left :)

Rasputin
15th December 2009, 03:28 PM
i already sabbed though :(

Seneca
15th December 2009, 03:28 PM
i already sabbed though :(

:(

As Goldie put it:
[22:29] <&Goldaline> do whatever you can to HURT THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS

Also, BRET's quote comes to mind:
[21:36] <BRET> so you are telling me that I am a dumbfuck and you are a kind of god

Rasputin
15th December 2009, 03:30 PM
tell goldie i <3 him. only sabbed him :P

BRET
15th December 2009, 03:31 PM
would you mind quoting the whole thing, as it's shown in my sig? you idiot.

Seneca
15th December 2009, 03:37 PM
would you mind quoting the whole thing, as it's shown in my sig? you idiot.

I was just so proud that you finally understood what we both are, and I didn't even have to say it myself!

BRET
15th December 2009, 03:40 PM
I was just so proud that you finally understood what we both are, and I didn't even have to say it myself!

that's pathetic.

also, stop spamming. you're turning yourself into a fistingthor creature.

isaldir
15th December 2009, 03:46 PM
He already is a fistsofthor creature

Fixed that typo for ya. -seta

fistsofthor
15th December 2009, 05:06 PM
He already is a fistsofthor creature

Fixed that typo for ya. -seta

im not sure what that is supposed to mean.

In any case, how much damage has been done so far?

Rasputin
15th December 2009, 05:43 PM
<@Rasputin> !total
-C2D- -- Users of this bot have been on 956 sab missions, sabbed a total of 649,744,100 gold, reconned a total of 5,907 users


and only half our members know of the war :P
:devil2:
moer to come

Rastalord
15th December 2009, 05:53 PM
<@Rasputin> !total
-C2D- -- Users of this bot have been on 956 sab missions, sabbed a total of 649,744,100 gold, reconned a total of 5,907 users


and only half our members know of the war :P
:devil2:
moer to come



well.. I'm only one person, but:

mtceball has sabbed for a total of: 133,900,000 gold in the last ermm... 10 hours,


lol... my sabs in the last 10 hours (I started chaining FF before the war started... lol) are almost 1/4 (25%) of your alliance's sabs in the whole age... lol..... quite pathetic tbh.

And quite lame from you to try to pass "all age" sabs for "war" sabs.... lrn2log!!... we all know FF sucks at war and sucks at sabbing... don't try to act as if you didn't... we CAN see through you.


Also wanted to add... nicer leadership FF to start a war without half your clan knowing about it... lol...

Rasputin
15th December 2009, 06:00 PM
I wonder why you sabbed more from us.. because we're doing slightly better with a few larger accounts? :P nice try Rasta but still a nub, always a nub. though you are MY nub

dohh
15th December 2009, 06:07 PM
I wonder why you sabbed more from us.. because we're doing slightly better with a few larger accounts? :P nice try Rasta but still a nub, always a nub. though you are MY nub
Top 10 Alliances
TFE™ 46 85
<enormous gap>
Fearless Force 87 36
apparently not! :whistilin

This "war" would be a lot more fun if turns weren't so limited and it weren't beta :(

:violin::deadhorse:

Rasputin
15th December 2009, 06:17 PM
ya the sabs make this war ridiculous it's like 1st day=fun. 2day nobody to sab. 3 day sabs. 4 day nothing. it's bull

AxEHeaD15
15th December 2009, 06:38 PM
So we need to tell admins that they should not have limited sab attempts just because someone was sabbed a lot?

How are turns working out for you guys?

-AxE

fistsofthor
15th December 2009, 06:43 PM
ya the sabs make this war ridiculous it's like 1st day=fun. 2day nobody to sab. 3 day sabs. 4 day nothing. it's bull

well, considering this was isnt 4 days old to my knowledge, i would recommend that you try not to say what happens on day 4 like it has already happened.

That said, the scenario you proposed is probably a little more fun than the:
Good people of KoC V. SR war last age where it went something like:

day 1= sab. day 2= turn farm & mass, day 3= turn farm & mass....

remember, you can still try to mass people (as for turn farming an online account: good luck.

dohh
15th December 2009, 06:53 PM
So we need to tell admins that they should not have limited sab attempts just because someone was sabbed a lot?

How are turns working out for you guys?

-AxE

There are far too few game turns, especially even when failed sabs each take 5 turns.

OTC
15th December 2009, 08:08 PM
Your opponent has already suffered heavy losses today, and his sentry force is on full alert. Your sabotage will not succeed until they let their guard down.

Seems that most of the FF accounts I attempt to sab are like this. At least the ones with any AAT at all. Silly faggots massed themselves?

:shifty:

Warriorelf
15th December 2009, 08:46 PM
wow is fists complaining about the lacn/sr war from last age?

that was last age no one gives a shit fists.

and as for ff not sabbing as much. tfe is prolly counting all the sabs they did before the war even started in thier totals. and whats this i hear about a 3 sab limit? if someone is sabbed by three people you cant sab them anymore?

fistsofthor
15th December 2009, 10:51 PM
wow is fists complaining about the lacn/sr war from last age?

that was last age no one gives a shit fists.

and as for ff not sabbing as much. tfe is prolly counting all the sabs they did before the war even started in thier totals. and whats this i hear about a 3 sab limit? if someone is sabbed by three people you cant sab them anymore?

im was not complaining. Turn farming was AWESOME!!!

that said, my point was that with this sab cap, things are better than they were last age without said sab cap in terms of ones ability to do damage day after day to a number of accounts.

As for everything else, it seems to me that failed sabs wasting game turns seems like sufficient reason to:
1) allow players to use as many failed sab attempts as they wish on a target per day.
2)try to have more spies than the bare minimum in order to maximize the number of players one can sab.

Rasputin
16th December 2009, 12:10 AM
with the armory loss limit for 24 hours it will make wars essentially a waste of time so I see the outcome in four days :P

Seneca
16th December 2009, 12:52 AM
with the armory loss limit for 24 hours it will make wars essentially a waste of time so I see the outcome in four days :P
Waste of time? How is having fun ever a waste of time?

nagrach
16th December 2009, 03:09 AM
Good luck FF

Seneca
16th December 2009, 08:59 AM
The thing that annoys me is that for a war right now it doesn't matter if you have 10 people sabbing or 1000 people sabbing, soon all accounts reach the sab limit and it's over.

If you ask me make sabs less powerful and remove the sab limit.

capkop
16th December 2009, 09:12 AM
What is TFFirm status in this war?

blazed420
16th December 2009, 09:14 AM
I would just like to point out, TFE/LGC is at war, and Shane is still my commander. :whatgives

AxEHeaD15
16th December 2009, 09:34 AM
Seneca I like that idea.

Slasher good question.

Blazed, so you are in the war too right?

-AxE

blazed420
16th December 2009, 09:36 AM
Seneca I like that idea.

Slasher good question.

Blazed, so you are in the war too right?

-AxE

Indeed.

Seneca
16th December 2009, 09:36 AM
What is TFFirm status in this war?

As far as I know only TFE/LGC are sabbing (not TFF, TFFirm doesn't exist anymoer I think?) and only FF is sabbing back.

Any guesses what damage FF has done? The bot wasn't rly set up yet so we can't check what they lost but my guess would be ~2b

Rasputin
16th December 2009, 09:53 AM
okay i'll admitt Seneca that the fun is there :P but the sabbing SUCKS ASS so badly. the limit makes your chain maybe.. 10 minutes max? which isn't fun :( but ya the war is always fun with TFE/lgc vs FF :P hard to believe we were inchain age X:punch:

Screwdriver_LaCN
16th December 2009, 10:09 AM
So for now the only bad change in the beta is the less TURNS?Because now the damages are much lesser and I guess the fun will be lesser :/

Rasputin
16th December 2009, 10:12 AM
screwy it's the sab limit too ya know, only being able to sab 8% or something per day per account. it's kinda bull :P

fistsofthor
16th December 2009, 10:29 AM
I would just like to point out, TFE/LGC is at war, and Shane is still my commander. :whatgives

how many times per day are you getting sabbed?

@seneca: it does matter how many people are on your side. The reason: if you have only ten people, its going to be impossible for all of you to sab 100 players to the max day in and day out, whereas with more people, it would be possible.

Seneca
16th December 2009, 10:32 AM
how many times per day are you getting sabbed?

@seneca: it does matter how many people are on your side. The reason: if you have only ten people, its going to be impossible for all of you to sab 100 players to the max day in and day out, whereas with more people, it would be possible.

yea okay, but you understand what I'm trying to say, and if you don't; try buying a proper brain

Rasputin
16th December 2009, 11:52 AM
I think it should be illegal for fists to be on GUA I honestly think admins would be doing him a favor by banning him, perhaps get the bloke a social life, a girl.. who knows anything is possible

Seneca
16th December 2009, 12:04 PM
Interesting thing about the war:

FF accounts seem to have been sabbing eachothers weapons to resell them, so they become immune to sabs (already suffered heavy losses) while not actually taking damage.

PS. I know I post too much lol, just posting things I notice about warring in this beta that others didn't notice yet.

Rasputin
16th December 2009, 12:19 PM
we're learning how to use the beta :P

Rastalord
16th December 2009, 12:34 PM
we're learning how to use the beta :P

lol... we did that yesterday.... which adds to how fake your logs are... lol... ridiculous.

Rasputin
16th December 2009, 12:44 PM
we did that today Rastan00b :P

Kegger
16th December 2009, 12:55 PM
interesting new tactic...

blazed420
16th December 2009, 01:01 PM
interesting new tactic...

Yeah, I'm not sure this is how Rocco expected the new sab rules to turn out. But hey, whatever works for them right? lol.

Rasputin
16th December 2009, 01:27 PM
blazed when you joinin' me?

Fernando
16th December 2009, 02:12 PM
More like FF is not that fearless anymore :wigglinge:wigglinge

SleepingDragon
16th December 2009, 03:40 PM
Both sides are reduced to sabbing themselves, really?

LordCounter
16th December 2009, 04:00 PM
I would just like to point out, TFE/LGC is at war, and Shane is still my commander. :whatgives

lol thats because you are winning

amazing war. id say good luck but theres no need for that lol

AxEHeaD15
16th December 2009, 04:06 PM
RF/tS/DL/NWO have joined the war on FF side. Let's have fun :) <3 TFE btw.

-AxE

fistsofthor
16th December 2009, 04:23 PM
Interesting thing about the war:

FF accounts seem to have been sabbing eachothers weapons to resell them, so they become immune to sabs (already suffered heavy losses) while not actually taking damage.

PS. I know I post too much lol, just posting things I notice about warring in this beta that others didn't notice yet.

thats silly. There is no such thing as posting to much on GUA.

@blazed: are you going to stay now that the slaying chain is against your banking chain?

for the record, blazed current stats are:

Army Size:
Unit Type Attack Specialist Defense Specialist Untrained
Mercenaries 0 0 0
Soldiers 8,063 1,583 5,375

Military Stats
Strike Action: 1,768,245,623
Defensive Action 236,589,082
Spy Rating 55,952,133
Sentry Rating 32,846,561
Covert Skill: 10
Covert Operatives: 744
Siege Technology: Black Powder
Attack Turns: 1,843
Unit Production: 640

Weapons
Name Type Quantity Strength
Lookout Tower ??? 38 120/???
Chariot ??? 452 6,000/6,000
Nunchaku ??? 52 ???/120
Dragonskin ??? 357 2,560/???
Invisibility Shield Defend 31 10,000/???

@Axe: good luck!

punkrocker7829
16th December 2009, 04:35 PM
Guess its time for a real clan(RF) to get into the action?

Ricky91
16th December 2009, 05:42 PM
Always considered TFE a respectable alliance, in contrast to FF members who constantly sab me for 'apparent' low hits...

I'm somewhere in FF's chain, and to play my part im not going to sab TFE for something FF most probably caused. (Im too lazy to read what caused it :D )

SleepingDragon
16th December 2009, 06:10 PM
Always considered TFE a respectable alliance, in contrast to FF members who constantly sab me for 'apparent' low hits...

I'm somewhere in FF's chain, and to play my part im not going to sab TFE for something FF most probably caused. (Im too lazy to read what caused it :D )

Weren't you a leech somewhere in that same chain? If FF were sabbing you in chain, I can understand your apathy tho.

People were already making themselves sab immune to avoid damage, I don't think much changes with more people joining in unless those people didn't sab themselves before getting involved. Then TFE gets some "better" sab stats lol, but nothing really changes.

Semper.Fidelis
16th December 2009, 06:46 PM
This game turn thing is a bitch for wars... Have to hand pick a few targets that are actually worth sabbing.
Semper_Fidelis sabbed a total of 94,000,000 gold over 28 sabs.

AxEHeaD15
16th December 2009, 06:50 PM
TFFirm are now involved, so it is FF/RF/DL/tS/NWO vs TFE/LGC/TFFirm

-AxE

Kegger
16th December 2009, 08:10 PM
grr. this limited number of sabs per player. annoying when you come to the party late. only 19 sabbable targets for me..........................

Flaming Knights
16th December 2009, 08:37 PM
Sab Stats for flaming_knights Total: 188,426,000

thats war total. Missions: 211

Rastalord
16th December 2009, 08:42 PM
As a response to whatever fists has posted:
Your spies successfully enter fistsofthor's armory undetected, and destroy 2 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter fistsofthor's armory undetected, and destroy 2 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.



and regarding sabs...


[23:42] <AutomaticCreations> mtceball has sabbed for a total of: 307,975,000 gold in the last ermm... 24 hours,


some of those are on some other people... lol.. but most of those are FF... lol

[23:43] <AutomaticCreations> FF has been sabbed for a total of: 1,678,406,985 gold in the last ermm... 24 hours,
[23:43] <AutomaticCreations> has been sabbed for a total of: 716,650,200 gold in the last ermm... 24 hours,

Some FF members are not tagged in the bot, so they don't get counted in. those are sabtotals for past 24 h.... 23.44 here, so might aswell get a daily approx.

Flaming Knights
16th December 2009, 08:44 PM
looks like we have more to sab. XD

Rastalord
16th December 2009, 08:52 PM
looks like we have more to sab. XD

Not our fault that you declare "war" on us and when you get your asses handed to you by us (same as past 3 ages)... you go run to 4 chains more and continue to whine about still losing... lol... epic!

BillyCrack
16th December 2009, 08:54 PM
TFFirm are now involved, so it is FF/RF/DL/tS/NWO vs TFE/LGC/TFFirm

-AxE

This is turning an exciting war :)

Flaming Knights
16th December 2009, 09:56 PM
no no not at all. as in we have more weapons. your chain is emptied. i went down to 1 tripwire aat and only have half the sab stats as you. unless those arent from war only.

AxEHeaD15
16th December 2009, 10:00 PM
This is fun! :) Sab rules could use some tweaking though.

-AxE

Shredmeister
16th December 2009, 11:51 PM
Good luck to all!

Let's have fun, it's beta.

Shane, I heard our purple was too much to handle, is this true?

Seneca
17th December 2009, 12:39 AM
This is turning an exciting war :)

Not really... it's all about sablimits and lack of turns.


no no not at all. as in we have more weapons. your chain is emptied. i went down to 1 tripwire aat and only have half the sab stats as you. unless those arent from war only.

I lol'd. You know with the current sabrules you can't even empty someone? You make yourself look pretty ridiculous here
Also, nice pussy tactic sabbing yourselves.

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 12:44 AM
RastaN00b ROFL ask RF/dl/nwo/ts if we begged or cried for help, we literally said "RF we're doing this war, if you want in, join. if not don't up to you all." they CHOSE to join for fun. :P please get all the facts, before you try to act like we need the help

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 12:46 AM
Also, nice pussy tactic sabbing yourselves.


Funny in PM you told me it was a GREAT idea but here you say we're pussies... hypocracy?:whatgives
<3:devil4:

Seneca
17th December 2009, 12:58 AM
Funny in PM you told me it was a GREAT idea but here you say we're pussies... hypocracy?:whatgives
<3:devil4:

No it's a smart idea but still makes you a pussy

[07:59] <@Shredmeister> you
[07:59] <@Shredmeister> can
[07:59] <@Shredmeister> all
[07:59] <@Shredmeister> suck
[07:59] <@Shredmeister> my
[07:59] <@Shredmeister> cock
[07:59] <@Shredmeister> :)

^ word lol

SleepingDragon
17th December 2009, 01:04 AM
Also, nice pussy tactic sabbing yourselves.

Does that tactic make Rasta a pussy too?


lol... we did that yesterday.... which adds to how fake your logs are... lol... ridiculous.

Apparently you guys discovered that "secret strategy" for growth, oops I mean sabbing, before FF did it.

Pj-
17th December 2009, 01:07 AM
RastaN00b ROFL ask RF/dl/nwo/ts if we begged or cried for help, we literally said "RF we're doing this war, if you want in, join. if not don't up to you all." they CHOSE to join for fun. :P please get all the facts, before you try to act like we need the help

logs or it didn't happen <herecomesahurtingword>

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 01:07 AM
but all KoC already knew that about Rasta :P:whistilin

Shredmeister
17th December 2009, 01:09 AM
Let's post IRC logs!

[02:05] <Seneca> did you sab me btw?
[02:05] <Seneca> prolly ghosted lol
[02:08] <Shredmeister> whats your account?
[02:08] <Seneca> VictoryRose
[02:09] <Seneca> lol
[02:09] <Seneca> don't tell me you forgot me and are going to sab now
[02:09] <Shredmeister> Your spies successfully enter VictoryRose's armory undetected, and destroy 6 of the enemy's Nunchaku stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
[02:09] <Shredmeister> Your spies successfully enter VictoryRose's armory undetected, and destroy 6 of the enemy's Nunchaku stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
[02:09] <Shredmeister> :)
[02:09] <Seneca> fuck you lol

Pj-
17th December 2009, 01:11 AM
Rasputin, give us logs of that convo, I'd like to see that ;)

Seneca
17th December 2009, 01:12 AM
Let's post IRC logs!

[02:05] <Seneca> did you sab me btw?
[02:05] <Seneca> prolly ghosted lol
[02:08] <Shredmeister> whats your account?
[02:08] <Seneca> VictoryRose
[02:09] <Seneca> lol
[02:09] <Seneca> don't tell me you forgot me and are going to sab now
[02:09] <Shredmeister> Your spies successfully enter VictoryRose's armory undetected, and destroy 6 of the enemy's Nunchaku stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
[02:09] <Shredmeister> Your spies successfully enter VictoryRose's armory undetected, and destroy 6 of the enemy's Nunchaku stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
[02:09] <Shredmeister> :)
[02:09] <Seneca> fuck you lol

[08:09] <Seneca> fuck you lol
[08:09] <Seneca> now I have to retaliate again
[08:09] <Seneca> oh good I can't
[08:09] <Seneca> I only retaliate to ppl in my logs
[08:09] <Seneca> but I really cba to sab

This shit is boring lol.

Shane-
17th December 2009, 01:37 AM
RastaN00b ROFL ask RF/dl/nwo/ts if we begged or cried for help, we literally said "RF we're doing this war, if you want in, join. if not don't up to you all." they CHOSE to join for fun. :P please get all the facts, before you try to act like we need the help


Let's post IRC logs!




[10:29:09:pm] <Shane> FF did ask for help then?
[10:29:18:pm] <AxEHeaD-RF> Yes they did


Enough said.



Shane

Semper.Fidelis
17th December 2009, 04:27 AM
srsly who gives a shit. If this was a real age I'd say you've had it coming with all the arrogance but this is a beta so who cares. Just have fun.

Pj-
17th December 2009, 05:21 AM
logs or it didn't happen <herecomesahurtingword>

so it didn't happen, genious!

Seneca
17th December 2009, 05:25 AM
srsly who gives a shit. If this was a real age I'd say you've had it coming with all the arrogance but this is a beta so who cares. Just have fun.

lol, we had it coming cause we didn't allow a commander to be approved for what his officer did.

Ferrous
17th December 2009, 05:40 AM
Even though it is a beta
when the dust settles none one cares if they asked for help
they only remember who won the war or the age
and who got pawned :D
who gives a damn about they asked for help....

Seneca
17th December 2009, 06:13 AM
Even though it is a beta
when the dust settles none one cares if they asked for help
they only remember who won the war or the age
and who got pawned :D
who gives a damn about they asked for help....

Yea except this war won't be remembered cause no one will win and no damage will be done.

Also, I don't care that they asked for help, it just means they don't have the balls to fight for their own bullshit

Ferrous
17th December 2009, 06:28 AM
How many times have TFE won wars with the help of others alliances
see KOC history, i dont think TFE ever went to war alone
and KOC is not a game of balls
u have bigger alliance and better numbers then u win
having balls dont help u in KOC

and stop acting like a little emotional kid senecca
learn that from shane, he talks when necessary
dont shoot ur mouth off

Pj-
17th December 2009, 06:33 AM
Seneca IS right tho

Seneca
17th December 2009, 06:44 AM
How many times have TFE won wars with the help of others alliances
see KOC history, i dont think TFE ever went to war alone
and KOC is not a game of balls
u have bigger alliance and better numbers then u win
having balls dont help u in KOC

and stop acting like a little emotional kid senecca
learn that from shane, he talks when necessary
dont shoot ur mouth off

Ah, so you are only talking when necessary?

Maybe you're right about us not winning any war on our own, but that's mostly because we always have allies and they decide to support. Also, it's hard to find a war where there are just two alliances involved lately. But anyway, for example, the FF vs GTA war last age was mostly fought by TFE. Sure, RF did a good part too, but most damage by far was done by TFE, and DL didn't do jack shit, so.. you can't rly say we wouldn't have won that on our own.
Also, SR had best number last age.. you saw where that got them.

BRET
17th December 2009, 06:51 AM
Yea except this war won't be remembered cause no one will win and no damage will be done.

Also, I don't care that they asked for help, it just means they don't have the balls to fight for their own bullshit
:violin:


oh you little poor guy... did you count your losses?

now you can remove that quote from your sig, you look very stupid stating something that you previously denied in the convo ;)

AxEHeaD15
17th December 2009, 06:56 AM
Ah, so you are only talking when necessary?

Maybe you're right about us not winning any war on our own, but that's mostly because we always have allies and they decide to support. Also, it's hard to find a war where there are just two alliances involved lately. But anyway, for example, the FF vs GTA war last age was mostly fought by TFE. Sure, RF did a good part too, but most damage by far was done by TFE, and DL didn't do jack shit, so.. you can't rly say we wouldn't have won that on our own.
Also, SR had best number last age.. you saw where that got them.

Umm nubby, RF and DL helped a lot, and we were GTA, so we all had an equal role. Don't downplay our part in the FF war, we were all in it together.

Also, FF are our allies. Shane knew if they asked for our help we would join in. Anyone that is not a leader of teh alliances involved should not be shooting their mouths off about anything on IRC or GUA and just stick to posting logs of their sabs.

Also, why talk crap about each other when this war was meant to be fun? And Seneca, FYI, TFE and RF are still friends, this is a fun war.

Truth be told, half the reason I wanted to war was because we need to help admins understand that some of the new rules for sabbing and stuff are not good and some are. We sort them out and tell the admins what we need.

Now enough crap talking and saying stuff that you know nothing about, let's just sab and have fun, and let's see some logs here people!


UndeadChaoticGnome []

2 Dragonskin
10h, 47m, 28s
UndeadChaoticGnome []

2 Dragonskin
10h, 47m, 29s
ZHLANCE []

2 Chariot
10h, 48m, 21s
ZHLANCE []

2 Chariot
10h, 48m, 23s
Zwikbear []

2 Dragonskin
10h, 50m, 33s
Zwikbear []

2 Dragonskin
10h, 50m, 36s
colossus []

1 Lookout Tower
10h, 52m, 28s
colossus []

1 Lookout Tower
10h, 52m, 56s
Berntsen88 []

4 Grappling Hook
10h, 57m, 9s
Berntsen88 []

4 Grappling Hook
10h, 57m, 10s
ThreeNoses []

4 Dragonskin
10h, 58m, 54s
ThreeNoses []

4 Dragonskin
10h, 58m, 55s
PaperMario []

3 Lookout Tower
11h, 4m, 28s
PaperMario []

3 Lookout Tower
11h, 4m, 41s
timmy []

6 Grappling Hook
14h, 3m, 15s
timmy []

6 Grappling Hook
14h, 3m, 18s
DrunKnGoblin []

1 Nunchaku
14h, 9m, 35s
DrunKnGoblin []

1 Nunchaku
14h, 9m, 36s

I didn't do too much because I was in school, and because I was dealing with people PMing me after I posted the announcement, more to come.

-AxE

Seneca
17th December 2009, 07:20 AM
Fun war, yes, flaming is probably the most fun part of a war though!

I'm still sabbing one attempt / 5 mins /yay

Cba to post logs, but got this:
[14:23] <&AutomaticCreations> Seneca has sabbed for a total of: 250,400,000 gold in the last ermm... 2 days, 12 hours,

edit:
come to think of it the only fun part of a war is flaming right now, it's not like ppl are getting destroyed or anything /yawn
*goes back to whoring sentry*

Shane-
17th December 2009, 07:35 AM
Could I make one thing here clear?....

This is far from a real war, It's a beta, and we all want to have a bit of fun, For a lot of us, warring is fun, for some, ranking is fun, for some, slaying is fun....

This is a beta, And our members (From each side) get to have a bit of fun, they can learn the new rules, the best ways to do things, the best way to optimize their turns, and have a slight advantage in the real age....

Also, A lot of us are annoyed at how exp works, right?... especially with conquests exp being dropped a ton, A good mini war at least allows us to use our turns and get our exp up, I know I'm constantly running out of turns, so I imagine most others are....

This "war" will over in a few days, maybe less, when it stops becoming fun, It was started for fun in a beta, and it'll end for fun in the beta, With the new rules, its impossible to "destroy" or really "hurt" accounts, so I don't really forsea a clear "winner", I guess as far as I'm concerned, FF declaring war, then running to RF+co for help is everything I and everyone else needs to know

But at the end of the day, It's a beta, It's fun, its not personal and almost everyone being respectful with one and another, nobody should take anything in the beta personal or to heart.

To Shred, As I said on MSN, www.purple.com You can take that "Purple" and "Shove it" ^^

Anyways - It's time for me to go back to being Ebenezer (r/l) and let you people "play" this "game" and not get "worked up" over it.


Shane


P.s
To: Ferrous
TFE warred LaCN on our own in age 10 (/win)
The last time RF warred anyone on their own was about age 8?...
tS never warred on their own
I can't remember FF winning a war, at least not recently
I can't remember NWO staying in a war without running (Blazed 2.0 !?!?!)

ZAR
17th December 2009, 07:42 AM
In Age 9 RF warred NL/PR and JD on itīs "own" - and after that PR with ES help.

So the sablimit needs to go, did anyone forward it to Rocco yet? :D

3ddy
17th December 2009, 07:43 AM
well admins wanted a war
and like good little kids it seems some are even going as far as flaming like a real war
guys focus on testing the current changes
the aim is to see how much can be sabbed with the current changes in place
numbers vs turns sort of thing
also could one of the mods change the topic to "beta test war"
have fun guys
and if you are not having fun then something needs to be changed
also make a note of fail points while we are testing the changes
the limitations etc
and no flaming this is a beta after all

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 11:08 AM
these sab changes need to go, return it to age 7 sabbing or even age 5

fistsofthor
17th December 2009, 12:09 PM
Could I make one thing here clear?....

This is far from a real war, It's a beta, and we all want to have a bit of fun, For a lot of us, warring is fun, for some, ranking is fun, for some, slaying is fun....

This is a beta, And our members (From each side) get to have a bit of fun, they can learn the new rules, the best ways to do things, the best way to optimize their turns, and have a slight advantage in the real age....

Also, A lot of us are annoyed at how exp works, right?... especially with conquests exp being dropped a ton, A good mini war at least allows us to use our turns and get our exp up, I know I'm constantly running out of turns, so I imagine most others are....

This "war" will over in a few days, maybe less, when it stops becoming fun, It was started for fun in a beta, and it'll end for fun in the beta, With the new rules, its impossible to "destroy" or really "hurt" accounts, so I don't really forsea a clear "winner", I guess as far as I'm concerned, FF declaring war, then running to RF+co for help is everything I and everyone else needs to know

But at the end of the day, It's a beta, It's fun, its not personal and almost everyone being respectful with one and another, nobody should take anything in the beta personal or to heart.

To Shred, As I said on MSN, www.purple.com You can take that "Purple" and "Shove it" ^^

Anyways - It's time for me to go back to being Ebenezer (r/l) and let you people "play" this "game" and not get "worked up" over it.


Shane


P.s
To: Ferrous
TFE warred LaCN on our own in age 10 (/win)
The last time RF warred anyone on their own was about age 8?...
tS never warred on their own
I can't remember FF winning a war, at least not recently
I can't remember NWO staying in a war without running (Blazed 2.0 !?!?!)

So let me get this straight:
you can war FF because TFE wants fun and experience.

But its totally crazy to suggest that RF/DL/tS/NWO wanted to war TFE for fun and experience.

That makes TONS of sense.


Its a war. Can we get some turn farming and massing logs?

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 01:01 PM
Fistsofthor i thought i would NEVER say this but good point with RF/nwo/dl/ts :P

but massing is useless atm so nobody use's it :P and all my turn farming is inchain... hmm...:imslow:

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 01:03 PM
But if you want farming logs..
Illkeyone
Recent Battles
Time Type Result
1 hour ago Attack 1,167,564 Gold Stolen
1 day ago Attack 950,855 Gold Stolen
2 days ago Attack 1,323,371 Gold Stolen
2 days ago Attack 1,893,749 Gold Stolen
2 days ago Attack 1,394,318 Gold Stolen
3 days ago Attack 1,157,875 Gold Stolen
4 days ago Attack 1,341,249 Gold Stolen
4 days ago Attack 732,731 Gold Stolen
6 days ago Attack 1,524,403 Gold Stolen
1 week ago Attack 1,152,487 Gold Stolen

Shane-
17th December 2009, 01:06 PM
But its totally crazy to suggest that RF/DL/tS/NWO wanted to war TFE for fun and experience.


fistofthor logic fails again.

I said "Both Sides", I didn't say anywhere that RF wouldn't war for fun and experience, I said they would, However as I already stated, RF joined primarily because they got asked to help.


Shane

Edit: And take fistofthor logic, and read Axe's posts, His and Sources say the same as mine, that its all for fun for everyone, and that its not a 'real war'... Lol

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 01:11 PM
01[14:32] <Rasputin> FF may start one
01[14:32] <Rasputin> with TFE
[14:32] <AxE> I know
01[14:32] <Rasputin> would the others like to join?
01[14:32] <Rasputin> is it a yes :P
[14:32] <AxE> Basically we have to back you
[14:32] <AxE> Dunno about the rest
[14:32] <AxE> but RF does
01[14:33] <Rasputin> lol you HAVE to? do you WANT to?
06[14:33] * Rasputin won't say anything
[14:33] <AxE> Yes I want to silly lol





looks like my logs say war was for fun ^^

Shane-
17th December 2009, 01:13 PM
[10:29:09m] <Shane> FF did ask for help then?
[10:29:18m] <AxEHeaD-RF> Yes they did

Like I already posted, As Axe said, If FF asked for support, You'd get it.


Shane

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 01:16 PM
but as my post shows, we didn't "will you help we're overwhelmed" it was more "we're starting a war, if you wanna sab, sab away" more of a BETA fuck it attitude :P

roy123
17th December 2009, 01:21 PM
Too much cry in here....the chain vs chain wars ended when the alliance merge for bost beggins.

Seneca
17th December 2009, 01:27 PM
Guys I see a blatant lack of flaming in some posts here. Please keep flaming.

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 01:29 PM
my apologies seneca, you suck ass, and nobody loves you!!!

(better?)

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 01:31 PM
<+Rasputin> Your spies successfully enter ShapeOfDespair's armory undetected, and destroy 250 of the enemy's Semen stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
<+hex^2> db error while processing operation by rasputin on ShapeOfDespair for 250 Semen

Seneca
17th December 2009, 01:34 PM
my apologies seneca, you suck ass, and nobody loves you!!!

(better?)

Thanks! You suck too and your obvious lack of skill got your alliance banned!

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 01:35 PM
I unbanned you from ours :P

<+Rasputin> Your Chief of Intelligence dispatches 1 spies to attempt to sabotage 10 inches of ShapeOfDespair's weapons of type Penis.
<+Rasputin> Your spies successfully enter ShapeOfDespair's armory undetected, but couldn't detect a single Penis anywhere. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

PalmTree
17th December 2009, 01:39 PM
FF can't even get everyone from TFE on their sab list :P pathetic.

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 01:44 PM
new question, are you WORTH sabbing? :icon_laug

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 01:51 PM
Do you think it's funny we didn't add you to our list?

Pj-
17th December 2009, 01:53 PM
what list cutie?

You can ask without flaming. ~ seta

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 01:53 PM
the list we have on our website that we're all using :P

AxEHeaD15
17th December 2009, 01:54 PM
This is seriously annoying, if you aren't going to post something worth while shut your faces.

-AxE

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 01:55 PM
at this point I'm doing it to annoy you :P

Pj-
17th December 2009, 01:57 PM
I don't get a word you'r saying, explain it in fot-logic please

PalmTree
17th December 2009, 01:58 PM
That's funny you think its me(or only me) not on the list rasputin :P jokes on you.

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 02:03 PM
I didn't make it anyway :P jokes on illkeyone. if you think the list is incomplete PM all your links to him via koc :P

fistsofthor
17th December 2009, 02:08 PM
fistofthor logic fails again.

I said "Both Sides", I didn't say anywhere that RF wouldn't war for fun and experience, I said they would, However as I already stated, RF joined primarily because they got asked to help.


Shane

Edit: And take fistofthor logic, and read Axe's posts, His and Sources say the same as mine, that its all for fun for everyone, and that its not a 'real war'... Lol

1) When I said it was crazy, I was being sarcastic.
2) Really? You know the PRIMARY reason why someone other than yourself did something?

Last time I checked, its impossible to ascertain the primary reason why someone did ANYTHING without being able to read their mind.


So, FF have logs that show that an RF leader wanted to war TFEm and you have logs that show that that same leader believed that FF asked RF for involvement.

That is insufficient evidence to determine the primary reason why they warred. Also, given the following scenario, which is the primary reason:

suppose a camel had a blanket placed on its back. Then, it has 250 pounds of cement-mix placed on its back. Then, a piece of straw is added which breaks the camels back. Now, which is the primary reason? The final reason that triggered the back breaking, the first thing that put stress on its back (the blanket) or the thing with the most weight (the 250 pounds of cement-mix)?

I would say the cement-mix.

Now, how this is related is:

RF and co. likely had several reasons to wish to war tfe in a fun beta war. Now, the last reason may have been: an in-chain ally was warring TFE.

But, if that is the final reason, does being the final reason alone make it the primary reason? I do not think so.

If that is the case, what then was the reason which had the most weight with RF?

Well, unless we can read the minds of RF leadership, we have no way of knowing. I suppose that screenshots of RF's discussion about this would give us a good indication as to their primary reasons. But, there is no certain method for determining an individual's primary reason.

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 02:11 PM
FistsofThor: may i remind you this is infact a GAME? that is all

fistsofthor
17th December 2009, 02:14 PM
FistsofThor: may i remind you this is infact a GAME? that is all

I am not entirely sure what your point is.

I am aware that this is a game. In fact, i suggested (via sarcasm) (although others may have suggested before i suggested) the real possibility that its possible that RF's primary reason for warring TFE was fun because this is a gain.


So, i suppose im not sure what you are trying to say.

That said, what are the sab totals? Is anyone massing anyone? How effective are those raids for those BPM mode people?

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 02:22 PM
i said nobody is massing is it does 0 damage, you kill more with normal attacks which cost to many turns. so nobody does them. sab totals are

FF= <@Rasputin> !total
-C2D- -- Users of this bot have been on 3,042 sab missions, sabbed a total of 2,307,973,900 gold, reconned a total of 6,262 users

RF= bot offline about 1.2bil at the moemnt with a few other allies not yet added to it. more to come

<HK`s> Rasputin: Details.
<HK`s> BPM:2
<HK`s> Nunchaku:151
<HK`s> LT:42
<HK`s> CHARIOT:6
<HK`s> Dragon/Excalibur/Flaming_Arrow:2
<HK`s> Steed/Hammer_of_Thor/Warg:6
<HK`s> Lance/Longbow/Mace/Spear:206
<HK`s> Dragonskin:66
<HK`s> Shield:11
<HK`s> Grappling_Hook:12

SleepingDragon
17th December 2009, 02:28 PM
This war is like a lame food fight, except some people feel the need to call other people "pussies" and "fuckfaces." IT'S JUST MASHED TATERS AND CHOCOLATE PUDDING!

fistsofthor, how much do the new sab limits empower you? It appears that tfe/lgc/tffirm/rf/dl/nwo/ts/ff can't really involve you as they'd like to, since you seem quite invested in the motivations and consequences of this BETA war...are you planning on joining in on your own?

AxEHeaD15
17th December 2009, 02:35 PM
Lol fists, Shane actually happens to know my mind because I told him. Th ething with leaders is, if we have a problem we go to the other leader and we talk about it and generally understand each other. Source, Shane and I all agree on this being for fun. Yes FF asked for help, they have every right to, that was part of the agreement for them being in chain, and yes it is for fun.

Are you saying it can't be for both?

-AxE

PalmTree
17th December 2009, 02:54 PM
Lol TFE is at 4.6B by themselves. And mind you if we were to add like FF does the total would be near 7b(or higher). But we are only counting the war.

AxEHeaD15
17th December 2009, 02:55 PM
TFE isn't by themselves.

-AxE

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 02:57 PM
so far each mega chain has done almost the same amount of damage, with neither looking like it's going to win.... if these rules are the same next age, we should change the name to rankersofpeace.com

punkrocker7829
17th December 2009, 03:13 PM
lmao back to GTA and RF and DL helping most of the time each clan tried to fight on their own war the only time you guys teamed up together was to mass your own clan mates in LOP.

blazed420
17th December 2009, 03:14 PM
so far each mega chain has done almost the same amount of damage, with neither looking like it's going to win.... if these rules are the same next age, we should change the name to rankersofpeace.com

Good call there Ras, rankersofpeace.com would be an awesome game to play! Rankers and only rankers! Git outta here with your slaying and sabbing, if you can't click/bank/rank then you sux0r0z!@!@#!#!

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 04:26 PM
Your Chief of Intelligence dispatches 1 spies to attempt to sabotage 1 of PalmTree's weapons of type Nunchaku.

Your spies successfully enter PalmTree's armory undetected, and destroy 1 of the enemy's Nunchaku stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your Chief of Intelligence dispatches 1 spies to attempt to sabotage 1 of PalmTree's weapons of type Nunchaku.

Your spies successfully enter PalmTree's armory undetected, and destroy 1 of the enemy's Nunchaku stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

fistsofthor
17th December 2009, 04:35 PM
This war is like a lame food fight, except some people feel the need to call other people "pussies" and "fuckfaces." IT'S JUST MASHED TATERS AND CHOCOLATE PUDDING!

fistsofthor, how much do the new sab limits empower you? It appears that tfe/lgc/tffirm/rf/dl/nwo/ts/ff can't really involve you as they'd like to, since you seem quite invested in the motivations and consequences of this BETA war...are you planning on joining in on your own?

well, rastalord seems to be in my logs so it looks like i may hit him or something. but, i am not planning on joining in on this war.



Lol fists, Shane actually happens to know my mind because I told him. Th ething with leaders is, if we have a problem we go to the other leader and we talk about it and generally understand each other. Source, Shane and I all agree on this being for fun. Yes FF asked for help, they have every right to, that was part of the agreement for them being in chain, and yes it is for fun.

Are you saying it can't be for both?

-AxE

o, im sure that both reasons contributed. However, as far as the primary reason is concerned: there can be only one!


Good call there Ras, rankersofpeace.com would be an awesome game to play! Rankers and only rankers! Git outta here with your slaying and sabbing, if you can't click/bank/rank then you sux0r0z!@!@#!#!

The sad thing is that I cannot tell if you are serious or if you are joking.

So blazed, have players been sabbing you?

Also, is the sab cap protecting any of the mains of any of the alliances? I doubt it, but i just want to check. (and then maybe i will ask this question later so as to double check).

also, is it nice to know that your turns arent building up and eventually going to waste like they normally are at age end?

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 04:46 PM
the rules for cap protect everyone but the mains at the moment, but the fact that ALL medium accounts make it a war of mains.

fistsofthor
17th December 2009, 05:05 PM
the rules for cap protect everyone but the mains at the moment, but the fact that ALL medium accounts make it a war of mains.

"all medium accounts" is not a fact. Would you care to explain what you meant?

"medium accounts have a tff of less than 400k" is a fact.

"medium accounts have suffered as much as they can" is a fact.

However, "ALL medium accounts" is not a fact.

Kegger
17th December 2009, 05:19 PM
But its totally crazy to suggest that RF/DL/tS/NWO wanted to war TFE for fun and experience.


that is tS's reasoning. FF is in chain w/ RF as part of a deal they have. RF approached tS asking if we wanted to war. We decided that A)we were bored already B) its beta, lets have some fun and C)it'll help train new members.

So we did war for the lulz and xp.

punkrocker7829
17th December 2009, 05:20 PM
i was under the assumption this was for fun :)

fistsofthor
17th December 2009, 06:41 PM
that is tS's reasoning. FF is in chain w/ RF as part of a deal they have. RF approached tS asking if we wanted to war. We decided that A)we were bored already B) its beta, lets have some fun and C)it'll help train new members.

So we did war for the lulz and xp.


i was under the assumption this was for fun :)

Im pretty sure that that was what kegger said. Or, at least tS's reason for it.

In any case, it looks like their whole chain is in. Also, I noticed that shane's AC is taking everyone in tS/RFDL/NWO and calling them FF

Any comments on that?

SleepingDragon
17th December 2009, 07:14 PM
In any case, it looks like their whole chain is in. Also, I noticed that shane's AC is taking everyone in tS/RFDL/NWO and calling them FF

Any comments on that?

I heard that TFE/LGC would from now on be generally referred to as TFFirm.

Just another example how these flame wars are getting out of hand. :punch:

Shane-
17th December 2009, 07:42 PM
fistofthor - Really, do you not have anything else better to do?...


1. They all labeled as FF, as it was the easiest and fastest way to group them all together in one list, Ya' know, A bit like how FFLoa got labeled as FFLoa last age, and I kept it as that?... Maybe I'll just group LoP as LaCN to make things faster.

I wasn't going to waste my time editing a number of tags for different chains, because it is inefficient, You yourself know that, its fast, easy and simple to mass group the chain to create one fast list, It's simple as that, nothing more, nothing less, If I have time, I'll probs write something that redefined each chain individually, while keeping a group name too, But with Christmas around the corner, I've been less willing to spent time on this game than normally.
(Is that answer good enough for you, Or should I ask 10 self explanatory questions?....)


SleepingDragon - You are totally right, We're editing it a little 'TFE Firm' (Has a cute ring to it, right?) :p



The rules for cap protect everyone but the mains at the moment, but the fact that ALL medium accounts make it a war of mains.

As a pretty big account, I can say that is pretty wrong, Main accounts are protected just as much as everyone else, It's just a mear fact that main accounts aint sabbed as much, as not many people are in range, This is the same every age.



o, im sure that both reasons contributed. However, as far as the primary reason is concerned: there can be only one!


Read my post, Read Axes post, You'll notice, You can't tell us, what we think, or what we know, We -BOTH- agree'd with each other, And for you to say we're both wrong, in our thoughts?...

It's a game, come' on lol

Shane

Rastalord
17th December 2009, 09:29 PM
Ah, so you are only talking when necessary?

Maybe you're right about us not winning any war on our own, but that's mostly because we always have allies and they decide to support. Also, it's hard to find a war where there are just two alliances involved lately. But anyway, for example, the FF vs GTA war last age was mostly fought by TFE. Sure, RF did a good part too, but most damage by far was done by TFE, and DL didn't do jack shit, so.. you can't rly say we wouldn't have won that on our own.
Also, SR had best number last age.. you saw where that got them.

I was the top sabber on our side during our war RESPECT!!!!!... (lol)

fistsofthor
17th December 2009, 09:43 PM
I was the top sabber on our side during our war RESPECT!!!!!... (lol)

I thought that LGC was getting counted as a part of TFE these days.

But shane, what i meant when i asked about the sab damage cap on a player protecting the main was:

has any main been sabbed sufficiently that that damage cap is kicking in and protecting them in fact?

I mean, mains rarely get sabbed by more than a couple players during wars. So, a whatever % cap is unlikely to be very helpful for a main, but it would certainly be helpful for a mid-sized player as mid-sized players can be sabbed by a lot more than "whatever" number of players. (but mains cannot)

Shane-
17th December 2009, 09:49 PM
1. http://www.giveupalready.com/showpost.php?p=1319458&postcount=2281
Read that, I cant be ased typing it again and again and again, as fistofthor logic fails to read and understand.

2. The issue isnt the sab cap for mains, It's that not many people can sab mains (Lol....), Its the start of the age, "mains" whored sentry from the get go, so out of range for a lot of people. This fun wasn't "planned", so people didn't really whore spy, so its clear mains are typically not going to get much damage to them, I've lost what?... About 150-200 LT in the war max, and that I can rebuy back in 5-6 turns (Not bad as the war's been going on for 2-3 days?....) and that I can slay 150-200m aday with my SA....



Shane

Shane-
17th December 2009, 10:08 PM
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I regret to inform you, that that position is already been filled, If by chance I need a sexy Russian man, You'll be the first person I'll contact!

Now; To the topic;
I forsea this war ending within the next few days.

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 10:11 PM
Thanks for making me a consideration!


to topic:
and not because either side NEEDS to surrender, but because frankly, warring is about as exciting as reading Fistsofthors posts. You get nothing out of it, and at the end of the day you wonder why you bothered.

Warriorelf
17th December 2009, 10:25 PM
well fists as i was one of the ifrst from rf to sab tfe and we reached the sab cap on most of the accounts within 2 minutes there really is no strategy to it. its simply sab until you cant sab anymore. i can sabb all except the very top tfe/lgc accounts without having enought weapons to be sabbed myself. plus with the turns being used to sab it makes doing any real damage to top[ ranking accounts difficult and pointless therefore this war is like rasputin said about as interesting as anything you say. which is to say i might fall alseep right now.

fistsofthor
17th December 2009, 11:09 PM
well fists as i was one of the ifrst from rf to sab tfe and we reached the sab cap on most of the accounts within 2 minutes there really is no strategy to it. its simply sab until you cant sab anymore. i can sabb all except the very top tfe/lgc accounts without having enought weapons to be sabbed myself. plus with the turns being used to sab it makes doing any real damage to top[ ranking accounts difficult and pointless therefore this war is like rasputin said about as interesting as anything you say. which is to say i might fall alseep right now.

what about massing?

If there are so few people to sab, then you can go massing the top accounts. Why isnt that possible?

It seems to me that with the raid ability that massing top accounts would be way easier. However, I have heard that raid deals less damage to opponent than a full attack in terms of damages and casualties. Can we receive confirmation of this?

But, if you have an extra 5 hours worth of turns, you can use them. Last age it took 30 hours of turns to mass someone, and I saw way more of it.

It could be that this is still like the age beginning so that players are turn low still as sabs are not nearly powerful enough to deter slayers from good hits (plus no AAs to stand in someones way of burning turns), but im not so sure that that is it.

Shane-
17th December 2009, 11:30 PM
Massing:

http://www.giveupalready.com/showpost.php?p=1322589&postcount=8
http://www.giveupalready.com/showpost.php?p=1322590&postcount=9
http://www.giveupalready.com/showpost.php?p=1323021&postcount=99
http://www.giveupalready.com/showpost.php?p=1323055&postcount=122
http://www.giveupalready.com/showpost.php?p=1323062&postcount=124



Shane

Rasputin
17th December 2009, 11:31 PM
have you NOT read my posts about we tested massing on Shane and it does little not NOTHING?

:whatgives


If you're American PLEASE learn to read english

Seneca
18th December 2009, 01:40 AM
and not because either side NEEDS to surrender, but because frankly, warring is about as exciting as reading Fistsofthors posts. You get nothing out of it, and at the end of the day you wonder why you bothered.

Probably best post in this thread so far, I really lol'd, it's so true

3ddy
18th December 2009, 01:50 AM
[QUOTE=fistsofthor;1323012]So let me get this straight:
you can war FF because TFE wants fun and experience.

But its totally crazy to suggest that RF/DL/tS/NWO wanted to war TFE for fun and experience.QUOTE]

last time i checked you were not in either of those alliances
so stfu you annoying little twat
you seem very good at making long posts with out having the full details of some one on the inside
you would do great as a reporter
reporting BS on all sorts of things just to gain points in the industry
now back to the test war

Your spies successfully enter Lady_Rowan's armory undetected, and destroy 5 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter Lady_Rowan's armory undetected, and destroy 5 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter iPot's armory undetected, and destroy 5 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter iPot's armory undetected, and destroy 5 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter big_bad_beans's armory undetected, and destroy 5 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter big_bad_beans's armory undetected, and destroy 5 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

Seneca
18th December 2009, 02:31 AM
[09:26] <+Seneca> Your spies successfully enter theSyndicate's armory undetected, and destroy 5 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
[09:26] <+Seneca> Your spies successfully enter theSyndicate's armory undetected, and destroy 5 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
[09:26] <+Seneca> lolol ghosted bitch
[09:26] <+Seneca> Your spies successfully enter Dragons_Legacy's armory undetected, and destroy 4 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
[09:26] <+Seneca> Your spies successfully enter Dragons_Legacy's armory undetected, and destroy 4 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
[09:26] <+Seneca> and another
[09:26] <+Seneca> lol

The_Sovereign
18th December 2009, 03:14 AM
TFFirm is happy to help our allies in TFE. We said we would stay out of war if it was just FF. But we pledged our support to them in case the others jumped in.

Anyway, here it is


Your spies successfully enter Shredmeister-RF's armory undetected, and destroy 12 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

Your spies successfully enter we_own_joo's armory undetected, and destroy 9 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

Your spies successfully enter shrs's armory undetected, and destroy 8 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

Your spies successfully enter K_W_'s armory undetected, and destroy 7 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

Your spies successfully enter PrOdIgY's armory undetected, and destroy 6 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

etc etc etc

Cheers!

Seneca
18th December 2009, 03:17 AM
For the record, top sabbers in TFE/LGC/TFFirm

[10:19] <&AutomaticCreations> Rank: #1 mtceball Sabbed: 652,475,000 (LGC)
[10:19] <&AutomaticCreations> Rank: #2 Tango_Blast Sabbed: 602,719,200 (LGC)
[10:19] <&AutomaticCreations> Rank: #3 The_sovereign Sabbed: 513,533,000 (TFFirm)
[10:19] <&AutomaticCreations> Rank: #4 Shane Sabbed: 508,630,398 (TFE/LGC)
[10:19] <&AutomaticCreations> Rank: #5 Hostileafk Sabbed: 494,678,706 (TFE)
[10:19] <&AutomaticCreations> Rank: #6 doh Sabbed: 404,574,998 (TFE/LGC)
[10:19] <&AutomaticCreations> Rank: #7 PalmTree Sabbed: 375,283,000 (TFE)
[10:19] <&AutomaticCreations> Rank: #8 Seneca Sabbed: 374,125,000 (TFE/LGC)
[10:19] <&AutomaticCreations> Rank: #9 big_bad_b Sabbed: 353,657,789 (TFFirm)
[10:19] <&AutomaticCreations> Rank: #10 SpyR Sabbed: 316,600,000 (TFFirm)

Pretty balanced in alliances and stuff!
Honorable mention definitely PalmTree with only like 60m spy.
Another noteworthy one is Hostile who sabbed 5th amount while being afk!

Shane-
18th December 2009, 03:54 AM
*Just a mental note*
I'd have sabbed more if:
5 hours ago Shredmeister-RF 28,887,003 Gold stolen 35 2,239 4,334,446,350 6,403,980,950
17 hours ago Shredmeister-RF 78,121,981 Gold stolen 88 3,583 3,822,445,034 5,797,374,493
20 hours ago Shredmeister-RF 33,939,640 Gold stolen 108 4,569 4,494,585,052 6,788,897,635
21 hours ago Shredmeister-RF 42,521,648 Gold stolen 40 1,704 4,669,801,738 7,281,690,892
1 day ago Shredmeister-RF 7,162,839 Gold stolen 97 4,230 4,248,438,905 7,454,298,363

Hadn't cost me 900 game turns (/fail)


Shane

3ddy
18th December 2009, 04:35 AM
Your spies successfully enter VictoryRose's armory undetected, and destroy 8 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter VictoryRose's armory undetected, and destroy 8 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

gotcha muhahaha
those first few sabs were done from my phone btw
lol
it takes forever to sab
reinstalling my laptop so sabbing is slow
how many people are on the last tech?

Arsenalist
18th December 2009, 10:52 AM
more sabbies required,eh

Dear, tfe/lgc member

I noticed we are at war with you right now and it is looking a little one sided. I know on the tS side of the war we aren't not being sabbed much at all. i have been sabbed a few time considering my high spy and sentry. I am offering you a chance to come to the soon to be winning side tS last age took down one of the strongest alliances around and we plan on doing it again.

Not only will I help you grow ranks quickly but I care about all my officer and will try to meet everyone of your requests. I also give all my officer clickback :)

-chrisl7605-tS

PalmTree
18th December 2009, 11:58 AM
^^^ Stupidest message ever. Winning side my ass.

Seneca- I resent the ONLY 60 mill spy :P but i greatly appreciate the honorable mention. Finally my work is recognized!
Side note- And thats without today's sabs.
Rasputin-Not worth sabbing eh?

blazed420
18th December 2009, 12:07 PM
more sabbies required,eh

Dear, tfe/lgc member

I noticed we are at war with you right now and it is looking a little one sided. I know on the tS side of the war we aren't not being sabbed much at all. i have been sabbed a few time considering my high spy and sentry. I am offering you a chance to come to the soon to be winning side tS last age took down one of the strongest alliances around and we plan on doing it again.

Not only will I help you grow ranks quickly but I care about all my officer and will try to meet everyone of your requests. I also give all my officer clickback :)

-chrisl7605-tS

LOL! I like how his message says "tS last age took down the strongest alliance" like they were the only ones warring SR.. ahah

The_Sovereign
18th December 2009, 12:14 PM
more sabbies required,eh

Dear, tfe/lgc member

I noticed we are at war with you right now and it is looking a little one sided. I know on the tS side of the war we aren't not being sabbed much at all. i have been sabbed a few time considering my high spy and sentry. I am offering you a chance to come to the soon to be winning side tS last age took down one of the strongest alliances around and we plan on doing it again.

Not only will I help you grow ranks quickly but I care about all my officer and will try to meet everyone of your requests. I also give all my officer clickback :)

-chrisl7605-tS

Other people have better things to do with their turns than sab skeleton keys and guard dogs. ;)

Luckily I have no life and turns to spare.



Your spies successfully enter chrisl7605-tS's armory undetected, and destroy 3 of the enemy's Skeleton Key stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter chrisl7605-tS's armory undetected, and destroy 3 of the enemy's Skeleton Key stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

chrisl7605
18th December 2009, 01:21 PM
some of the messages i have received :)

first off i dont give a sh!t cause i dont play this game that much. second your a fu.cking **** if you think you and you're ****ty chain will do anything to TFE. its beta dumb@ss. and if i have to ill come back in age 13 just to sab you every day

Go f*** yourself in a corner, stupid sandnigger.

(that was a quote from Ravenglass1976 kinda racist don't you think?)

Haha That just kept you approved for the Age :)


<No recruiting please.>

(thought this was war, hypocrite)

G T F O with yer Luckin Fame STD recruit msg's, no one can recruit me

thats it for replies i will post

Your spies successfully enter VictoryRose's armory undetected, and destroy 6 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter VictoryRose's armory undetected, and destroy 6 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter Lady_Rowan's armory undetected, and destroy 5 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter Lady_Rowan's armory undetected, and destroy 5 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter The_Sovereign's armory undetected, and destroy 5 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter The_Sovereign's armory undetected, and destroy 5 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

Seneca
18th December 2009, 02:00 PM
The nice thing about chrisl is that you don't even have to post shit to make him look ridiculous, he does the job himself pretty decently!

On a much lighter note:
Your spies successfully enter Shredmeister-RF's armory undetected, and destroy 13 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter Shredmeister-RF's armory undetected, and destroy 13 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

Spy whoring pays off!

[21:11] <&AutomaticCreations> Seneca has sabbed for a total of: 74,375,000 gold in the last ermm... 15 minutes,
^ beat it pls

AxEHeaD15
18th December 2009, 02:11 PM
Seneca sabbed more than twice what I (in the entire war) sabbed in 15 minutes. Cudos to Seneca <3

-AxE

Seneca
18th December 2009, 02:14 PM
Seneca sabbed more than twice what I (in the entire war) sabbed in 15 minutes. Cudos to Seneca <3

-AxE

Axehead has a quote from the bible in his sig which has slightly more value (though less comic value) than BRET's quote, aww, :(


[21:57] <+Ponyboy> and i honestly thought we would wait an extra day at the odd threat SR could somehow join in
[21:57] <%Seneca> hmm let's wait til ppl are down, then join, but let's not join if we might not win!
[21:57] <+CareBear> it's called effing strategy

^ tS strategy, /win, never mentioned claiming the victory as your own afterwards though

Rasputin
18th December 2009, 03:17 PM
btw our bot is 50% off on our sabs as apparently LT's still register at 500k :P

thanks to orc000 for noticing this. we'll fix it eventually right after this badger's work out:badger:

blazed420
18th December 2009, 03:18 PM
Axehead has a quote from the bible in his sig which has slightly more value (though less comic value) than BRET's quote, aww, :(


[21:57] <+Ponyboy> and i honestly thought we would wait an extra day at the odd threat SR could somehow join in
[21:57] <%Seneca> hmm let's wait til ppl are down, then join, but let's not join if we might not win!
[21:57] <+CareBear> it's called effing strategy

^ tS strategy, /win, never mentioned claiming the victory as your own afterwards though

LMFAOOOO! Nice strat guys, "oh they're down! kick em in the faceeeee and take credit! wooppp!@"

tS rocks!@!#$Q

/sarcasm

Rasputin
18th December 2009, 03:23 PM
blazed STFU AND JOIN ME :P that is all

fistsofthor
18th December 2009, 03:54 PM
LMFAOOOO! Nice strat guys, "oh they're down! kick em in the faceeeee and take credit! wooppp!@"

tS rocks!@!#$Q

/sarcasm

jumping on a big dude when he is down is far better than running from a fight in terms of honor from my perspective. In the first one, you are at least helping your friends finish someone off. In the second one, you are just a coward.

So, thats the way i view it. Besides, its better to join late than never.

Shane-
18th December 2009, 04:23 PM
fists - Don't post.

And: The highlight of this war, Which has been the most fun part is:


10:23:01:pm] <~Shane> Buy a stick, SubZero!!
[10:23:37:pm] <SubZero> I now have 654 knives
[10:23:41:pm] <~Shane> Oooooo
[10:23:43:pm] <~Shane> Acc name!?!
[10:23:45:pm] <SubZero> I expect all of those to be gone within minutes
[10:23:51:pm] <SubZero> axehead-rf
[10:24:08:pm] <~Shane> Your spies successfully enter AxEHeaD-RF's armory undetected, and destroy 100 of the enemy's Knife stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
[10:24:08:pm] <~Shane> Your spies successfully enter AxEHeaD-RF's armory undetected, and destroy 200 of the enemy's Knife stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
[10:24:12:pm] <~Shane> ^5!
[10:24:15:pm] <SubZero> Lol nice :p
[10:24:17:pm] <SubZero> ^5
[10:24:26:pm] <SubZero> Seneca
[10:24:31:pm] <SubZero> Sab my knives nub
[10:24:35:pm] <+PalmTree> Your spies successfully enter AxEHeaD-RF's armory undetected, and destroy 100 of the enemy's Knife stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
[10:24:36:pm] <+PalmTree> Your spies successfully enter AxEHeaD-RF's armory undetected, and destroy 100 of the enemy's Knife stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
[10:24:38:pm] * TFE898 (TFE898@Cyanide-b592806b.mi.comcast.net) has joined #theforgottenempire
[10:24:45:pm] <SubZero> Woot!
[10:24:45:pm] <+Seneca> working on it man
[10:24:50:pm] <+Seneca> fucking patience you have it?!
[10:24:53:pm] <SubZero> Lol sure
[10:25:07:pm] <+Seneca> Your spies successfully enter AxEHeaD-RF's armory undetected, and destroy 100 of the enemy's Knife stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
[10:25:07:pm] <+Seneca> Your spies successfully enter AxEHeaD-RF's armory undetected, and destroy 100 of the enemy's Knife stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
[10:25:09:pm] <+Seneca> there you go!
[10:25:13:pm] <SubZero> Yeah baby!
[10:25:20:pm] * TFE898 (TFE898@Cyanide-b592806b.mi.comcast.net) Quit (EOF from client)
[10:25:21:pm] <+Seneca> ok
[10:25:26:pm] <SubZero> 600 knives down the hoel woot!
[10:25:44:pm] <+Seneca> ok
[10:25:49:pm] <+Seneca> now let those be my last sabs this war
[10:25:50:pm] <SubZero> OK unsabbable again :p



Edit:


[10:27:07:pm] <%doh> Your spies successfully enter AxEHeaD-RF's armory undetected, but your spies cannot find a Knife anywhere in their armory. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
[10:27:08:pm] <%doh> :(

Rawr!


Shane

Rasputin
18th December 2009, 04:25 PM
Shane is right, that is now the highlight of KoC

Flaming Knights
19th December 2009, 02:03 AM
Sab Stats for flaming_knights

Total: 443,185,700
Missions: 498

war only.

Lady_Rowan
19th December 2009, 02:28 AM
A few of the sabbs done in the last 24 hours

Your spies successfully enter PrOdIgY's armory undetected, and destroy 6 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter PrOdIgY's armory undetected, and destroy 6 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

Your spies successfully enter K_W_'s armory undetected, and destroy 7 of the enemy's Nunchaku stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

Your spies successfully enter K_W_'s armory undetected, and destroy 7 of the enemy's Nunchaku stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

Your spies successfully enter shrs's armory undetected, and destroy 8 of the enemy's Nunchaku stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

Your spies successfully enter shrs's armory undetected, and destroy 8 of the enemy's Nunchaku stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

Your spies successfully enter FlamingKnights's armory undetected, and destroy 2 of the enemy's Nunchaku stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter FlamingKnights's armory undetected, and destroy 2 of the enemy's Nunchaku stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

Your spies successfully enter Ponyboy-tS's armory undetected, and destroy 5 of the enemy's Nunchaku stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter Ponyboy-tS's armory undetected, and destroy 5 of the enemy's Nunchaku stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter RF-colleca-RF's armory undetected, and destroy 3 of the enemy's Chariot stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp
Your spies successfully enter RF-colleca-RF's armory undetected, and destroy 3 of the enemy's Chariot stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter theSyndicate's armory undetected, and destroy 5 of the enemy's Nunchaku stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter theSyndicate's armory undetected, and destroy 5 of the enemy's Nunchaku stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter ZawiszaCzarny's armory undetected, and destroy 2 of the enemy's Nunchaku stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter ZawiszaCzarny's armory undetected, and destroy 2 of the enemy's Nunchaku stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp
Your spies successfully enter jurgenbie's armory undetected, and destroy 2 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter jurgenbie's armory undetected, and destroy 2 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter Jackdaw's armory undetected, and destroy 2 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter Jackdaw's armory undetected, and destroy 2 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter Isaldir_FF's armory undetected, and destroy 3 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.
Your spies successfully enter Isaldir_FF's armory undetected, and destroy 3 of the enemy's Lookout Tower stockpile. Your spies all return safely to your camp.

Seneca
19th December 2009, 09:53 AM
On this great day which is my birthday the fighting parties have come to a truce.
Some highlights from the truce details

1. Everyone is truced, except TFE vs tS (tS will have to notice how their 'effing strategy' backfires).
2. War is replaced by Shane + Seneca vs Shredmeister (Also known as the big 3S-war, most epic war in KoC history)
3. Seneca will post a WW II surrender on GUA to show that he has less selfrespect than FF
4. Shredmeister will start banking (OMGW?A?FTF?!)
5. doh is still allowed to sab certain people and said people are still allowed to cry (IRL too)
6. LR will post pics
7. Goldie will receive a loveletter from every guy that sabbed her next February 14th.
8. Cybersessions between TFE and RF will resume
9. Rasputin will get a new account so he can piss off noobs once more
10. All parties involved in the war mass fistsofthor for shits and/or giggles, if LoP backs up we have a new war (with sabbable people /yay)
11. Anyone who fell asleep during the war because it was too boring will be woken up by OTC peeing in their faces.
12. TFE will declare love to TFFirm because they are certainly very lovable.
13. Everyone involved in the war sabs papermario's DA because he betrayed his slaying bro's.
14. Same goes for that retard VictoryRose who appearently has a top 10 TFF account nowadays. l2p pls.
15. BRET will be forced to delete his account and find a girl that doesn't think he's some kind of dumbfuck.
16. Any proposals for truce terms can still be added on request.

Have a good day!

Shane-
19th December 2009, 10:00 AM
1. <3 Eliot
2. SS Maybe a little more fun ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzstaffel )
3. Relates to 2.
4. RF? Bank?.... Who we kidding
5. Always!
6. Again; Always!
7. Flowers and chocolate work!
8. They stopped!?!?!
9. Rasputin has a mirror! He doesn't need an account!
10. This is planned anyways, right? Lol
11. I don't want to be pee'd on :(
12. ^5
13. Traitor!
14. We'll hire a bon squad to ban him!
15. We're asking a little too much here, come on; It's like asking an Indian to leave a call center!
16. Ohhhhh


Shane

dohh
19th December 2009, 10:17 AM
On this great day which is my birthday the fighting parties have come to a truce.
Some highlights from the truce details

1. Everyone is truced, except TFE vs tS (tS will have to notice how their 'effing strategy' backfires).
2. War is replaced by Shane + Seneca vs Shredmeister (Also known as the big 3S-war, most epic war in KoC history)
3. Seneca will post a WW II surrender on GUA to show that he has less selfrespect than FF
4. Shredmeister will start banking (OMGW?A?FTF?!)
5. doh is still allowed to sab certain people and said people are still allowed to cry (IRL too)
6. LR will post pics
7. Goldie will receive a loveletter from every guy that sabbed her next February 14th.
8. Cybersessions between TFE and RF will resume
9. Rasputin will get a new account so he can piss off noobs once more
10. All parties involved in the war mass fistsofthor for shits and/or giggles, if LoP backs up we have a new war (with sabbable people /yay)
11. Anyone who fell asleep during the war because it was too boring will be woken up by OTC peeing in their faces.
12. TFE will declare love to TFFirm because they are certainly very lovable.
13. Everyone involved in the war sabs papermario's DA because he betrayed his slaying bro's.
14. Same goes for that retard VictoryRose who appearently has a top 10 TFF account nowadays. l2p pls.
15. BRET will be forced to delete his account and find a girl that doesn't think he's some kind of dumbfuck.
16. Any proposals for truce terms can still be added on request.

Have a good day!

from doh's hoes end we agree to these terms


doh
ceo

Kegger
19th December 2009, 11:39 AM
1. Everyone is truced, except TFE vs tS (tS will have to notice how their 'effing strategy' backfires).

oh noes!

or oh yays?

Rasputin
19th December 2009, 12:38 PM
<3 shane <3 Seneca

AxEHeaD15
19th December 2009, 01:25 PM
For a joke this sure sounded serious, and btw I had a crap load of fun with Shane and Seneca and Rasputin and Doh yesterday. <3

-AxE

Seneca
19th December 2009, 07:41 PM
Lol, some actually believed there was a truce lol.
Well, wish we ever got a truce like that

Shane-
20th December 2009, 05:40 AM
*Uh eh*

Well; I think everyone can agree that this war is bull$hit, And that sabbing is bull$hit, and that massing is bull$hit, and that.... Well to be fair, The whole beta is bull$hit.

With all in consideration, This makes wars pretty pointless and worthless, and overall, boring. The most fun I've had is sabbing AxE's knifes in #Theforgottenempire

With that being said, Pretty much all leaders have decided that its a waste of our times to war, its too boring

So, For whom involved in the war, The ceasefire ' will start at midnight GMT ( IE: http://bit.ly/79Bg6C )

So; That means anyone who wants to get a few more sabs, farming, etc, This is your time to do it, Sabs afterwards will be considered unprovoked. (So you all get 12 hours left to war, then you've all got to stop.... 12 hours notice if more than enough for you to spread the word.)


Regards
Shane

bluud
20th December 2009, 06:05 AM
Rocco, You suck....

Regards
Shane

Gua koc admin having a little criticism?

Seneca
20th December 2009, 06:26 AM
Gua koc admin having a little criticism?

What are you going on about, it's true that Rocco messed up with the changes, and since when is Shane a gua koc admin?

azerbaby
20th December 2009, 06:41 AM
please note that ff admins have not agreed to anything yet

bluud
20th December 2009, 07:20 AM
I meant mod, or isnt he anymore? Just funny to see :p

-

FF make no difference :P

Rastalord
20th December 2009, 08:32 AM
please note that ff admins have not agreed to anything yet

No-one cares about FF... as usual, you will be happy with whatever bone gets thrown at you.... now shush...

Shane-
20th December 2009, 11:01 AM
please note that ff admins have not agreed to anything yet



[11:15:51] Heiko: they're in :P
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[11:34:44] :[ Shane :[: So who isn't "in" ?
[11:38:48] Heiko: noone
we're all ok
for the ceasefire


You'll find that RF / ShapeOfDispair spoke to Znakey and Znakey agree'd on behalf of FF... Or, wait a minute, lol?.... I guess FF can go all emo and take a 'beta war' seriously? Jesus?


Shane

Seneca
20th December 2009, 12:21 PM
No-one cares about FF... as usual, you will be happy with whatever bone gets thrown at you.... now shush...

Word

AxEHeaD15
20th December 2009, 04:20 PM
As much as I <3 Azer, she is a bf mod not admin. This war accomplished what it was meant to do, now it is up to Rocco to make things better. I have already approached a koc mod and told him what we discovered need fixing. All we players can do is sit here and see what comes of our discoveries.

-AxE

EDIT: My post was not entirely true as I come to find out, edited to make it true. Sorry.

ZnakeY
20th December 2009, 04:46 PM
Now that isn't correct Shane... I didn't make a definate statement of acceptance.
Maybe I should've been more clear or others shouldn't jump to conclussions,

But I can now confirm that FF has agreed to the truce.

Shane-
20th December 2009, 05:17 PM
ZnakeY - My post quoted SoD, If you want to proclaim someone is either lieing, or misinformed, Do not look at me, but look where home is.

Also, Axe himself said you (As an admin) agree'd, So they is TWO RF that said/thought you agreed... Later you two decided to have fun and edit your posts, regardless, The blame isn't to be cast here, You lot need to work on your communications.

Shane

ZnakeY
20th December 2009, 05:42 PM
It was you that stated it first here, of course I'm going to speak up if I know it to be wrong. The second paragraph isn't directed at you but merely a general reflection.

As for editing, AxE edited his post after I told him on IRC that I didn't agree to the truce when it was stated I did, but I will agree that we need to work on our communication.
All new relationships needs work ;)

Shane-
20th December 2009, 05:58 PM
/over.

Hope everyone had more fun that I did, Lol <3


Shane

Pj-
20th December 2009, 06:04 PM
Congratulations LGC/TFE for winning this!

Shredmeister
20th December 2009, 06:15 PM
Umm... no one won this war, no one surrendered, no one claimed victory.

You are an idiot.

Anyways it was fun... for about 10 minutes. Let's sab FoT now! :)

Shane-
20th December 2009, 06:26 PM
Shred, you're awesome.

(Relates to the top of the war, As two leaders are still on fun, and civil terms, not always the case for wars.)


Shane

bloodpirate
20th December 2009, 06:34 PM
how long will this truce last
what happens to those who break the truce
pj u r an idiot
shred, u r right
shane, i am friends with everyone

Shane-
20th December 2009, 06:42 PM
Bloodpirate - Consider the war "Over", At least thats how we are.

Everyone involved got 12 hours notice to inform their members, forums, irc, officers, etc that a cease-fire would go in place, The excuse "I didn't know" can't really be used any more, Because before, it was logical the person wouldn't know, and break it minutes/hour after it went into place, as they're rushed.

Twelve hours is more than enough time, As far as I'm concerned, If people break the " cease-fire " (IE: Chaining/Massing/Etc), They'll be retaliate upon via the typical ways (W/ a bit less aggression ofc), "I'm just retaliating " isn't quite a excuse either, Everyone had 12 hours to get the last sabs in.


Shane

bloodpirate
20th December 2009, 06:50 PM
we stopped, so anyone else still sabbing will be treated as an unprovoked sab/attack. especially those probe/raid attacks. and not treated like a one vs one. if a person has proven to have sabbed more than one person, they will be treated like a rogue.. enough said there.

it was a learning experience that war. really boring and almost impossible to cause any damage. i am not sure who had the most fun, but .. i .. like always, enjoyed sab .. sab .. sabbing as much as possible.

good luck one and all with rest of age, but most of all ... HAVE FUN.

Shredmeister
20th December 2009, 09:21 PM
2 hours ago MexicanSanta attack Attack defended 16 14 1,992,683,700 4,613,229,899
2 hours ago MexicanSanta attack Attack defended 41 31 1,825,491,361 4,998,922,039
2 hours ago MexicanSanta attack Attack defended 25 17 1,863,412,652 5,306,539,032
2 hours ago MexicanSanta attack Attack defended 22 19 1,977,965,879 4,537,432,662
2 hours ago MexicanSanta attack Attack defended 31 24 1,840,075,088 4,640,969,203
2 hours ago MexicanSanta attack Attack defended 22 17 2,168,446,692 5,619,652,630
2 hours ago MexicanSanta attack Attack defended 17 10 1,785,313,460 5,716,909,355
2 hours ago MexicanSanta attack Attack defended 26 17 1,573,363,040 4,571,587,180

2 hours? After the ceasefire.

Who is he? I need to e-rape and e-pillage his village.

EDIT: and make e-love to Shane all e-night long.

SleepingDragon
20th December 2009, 10:22 PM
2 hours ago MexicanSanta attack Attack defended 16 14 1,992,683,700 4,613,229,899
2 hours ago MexicanSanta attack Attack defended 41 31 1,825,491,361 4,998,922,039
2 hours ago MexicanSanta attack Attack defended 25 17 1,863,412,652 5,306,539,032
2 hours ago MexicanSanta attack Attack defended 22 19 1,977,965,879 4,537,432,662
2 hours ago MexicanSanta attack Attack defended 31 24 1,840,075,088 4,640,969,203
2 hours ago MexicanSanta attack Attack defended 22 17 2,168,446,692 5,619,652,630
2 hours ago MexicanSanta attack Attack defended 17 10 1,785,313,460 5,716,909,355
2 hours ago MexicanSanta attack Attack defended 26 17 1,573,363,040 4,571,587,180

2 hours? After the ceasefire.

Who is he? I need to e-rape and e-pillage his village.

Sounds like SR, ya know, the whole Latin American connection. It's never too early to go rogue in a beta, is it? :lamer:

I reckon this is a unique "war," the only war of its kind. Ever. Too bad the rest of KoC didn't feel inclined to participate (perhaps it takes too much time away from clicking?). At least both sides didn't hurt each other TOO bad (the wasted turns were the worst), but I guess planning for the next pillow fight is under way? :P

Screwdriver_LaCN
20th December 2009, 11:37 PM
MexicanSanta is genious999 from last age xD He was in LaCN before leaving together with Tesadus and dork :D

Pj-
21st December 2009, 03:37 AM
Sounds like SR, ya know, the whole Latin American connection. It's never too early to go rogue in a beta, is it? :lamer:

I reckon this is a unique "war," the only war of its kind. Ever. Too bad the rest of KoC didn't feel inclined to participate (perhaps it takes too much time away from clicking?). At least both sides didn't hurt each other TOO bad (the wasted turns were the worst), but I guess planning for the next pillow fight is under way? :P

lool, don't trie to talk about stuff you don't know shit about dumbass

BTW: I'm not an idiot, I see a truce between 5?! and 2 alliances atm, so LGC/TFE were the strongest in this, since they survived even tho they were outnumbered, think about that before you start flaming aidspirate

bluud
21st December 2009, 04:40 AM
Congrats to FF for winning the war!

Semper.Fidelis
21st December 2009, 05:05 AM
I'm not an idiot, I see a truce between 5?! and 2 alliances atm, so LGC/TFE were the strongest in this, since they survived even tho they were outnumbered, think about that before you start flaming aidspirate

I could fight TFE/LGC till the end of the beta on my own w/o losing anything I couldn't regrow with tbg and use turns to sab and grow stats. The only thing that tells you is that the sab cap and game turns are a total screw up. Besides it is a fucking beta noone cares. Well not noone, apparently there's always some retard with a borderline personality... Haste now, you have some serious catching up to do, reality had a major headstart.

AxEHeaD15
21st December 2009, 06:51 AM
Pj you are wrong, this was a war for "fun", there is no real winner but the admins lol, since it helped them most of all. Now quit being silly, and let the leaders do the talking, kthnxbai.

-AxE

roy123
21st December 2009, 06:57 AM
If the sabb limit per day doesnt change, no one will care about been aproved for farming or low hits. If this remains will the comon rule 1 hit every 24 hs will change?

blazed420
21st December 2009, 08:39 AM
Sounds like SR, ya know, the whole Latin American connection. It's never too early to go rogue in a beta, is it? :lamer:

I reckon this is a unique "war," the only war of its kind. Ever. Too bad the rest of KoC didn't feel inclined to participate (perhaps it takes too much time away from clicking?). At least both sides didn't hurt each other TOO bad (the wasted turns were the worst), but I guess planning for the next pillow fight is under way? :P

I wouldn't even consider it a war SD, it was just an excuse for TFE and RF to have homosexual relations. :P

Shredmeister
21st December 2009, 11:33 AM
I wouldn't even consider it a war SD, it was just an excuse for TFE and RF to have homosexual relations. :P

Yes, you are right. RF and my self -won- all over Shane and TFE's faces.

Btw, Pj-, you are still an idiot, so stop posting?

tburton
21st December 2009, 12:22 PM
I wasn't able to successfully sab anyone...

BRET
21st December 2009, 12:28 PM
Update: Like sabotaged tools, sabotaged weapons are now immediately removed from the armory

should we restart the war? :D

Pj-
21st December 2009, 01:42 PM
I wasn't able to successfully sab anyone...

trie buying spy

SleepingDragon
21st December 2009, 03:00 PM
lool, don't trie to talk about stuff you don't know shit about dumbass

Orly? Cuz that's like exactly what I was thinking when I saw this...


Congratulations LGC/TFE for winning this!

Good job, hope that brown nosing gets you places! Otherwise the smell of victory just isn't as sweet. Or maybe it it is for you? :wigglinge

bloodpirate
21st December 2009, 06:06 PM
lool, don't trie to talk about stuff you don't know shit about dumbass

BTW: I'm not an idiot, I see a truce between 5?! and 2 alliances atm, so LGC/TFE were the strongest in this, since they survived even tho they were outnumbered, think about that before you start flaming aidspirate

you know me, enter my logs and lets tango.. LOL, for that is what i do best.

and no the war won't continue, it was a learning experience, but not worth the time and really i do hope the admins learned from it. if there aren't changes next age, there will be mass farming, mass sabbings , etc. just to get experience points, and no worries about retaliation.

Blankslate
21st December 2009, 09:03 PM
I second that Bloodpirate I think if they dont change things there will be Mass sabbings and farming.

One thing on the New update Where DA/sa tools will be removed just like normal tools
Helps with the SA Accounts, now they cant recycle there bpm ( which is good )
Second it helps aginst the DA accounts because now we dont have to break them >.<

So now the last thing to change is the sab caps, and everything will be uber again for sabbers :)

Pj-
22nd December 2009, 01:33 AM
Orly? Cuz that's like exactly what I was thinking when I saw this...



Good job, hope that brown nosing gets you places! Otherwise the smell of victory just isn't as sweet. Or maybe it it is for you? :wigglinge

you might consider the fact that I'm actually lgc/tfe you dumbass
why else would I congratulate ourselves for good actions during the war?


you know me, enter my logs and lets tango.. LOL, for that is what i do best.

and no the war won't continue, it was a learning experience, but not worth the time and really i do hope the admins learned from it. if there aren't changes next age, there will be mass farming, mass sabbings , etc. just to get experience points, and no worries about retaliation.

You'r a dancer?

punkrocker7829
22nd December 2009, 06:38 AM
i do agree we were out matched FF, NWO, TS, RF, and DLs combined power is about 150 roughly while TFE, LGC, and TFFirm only combine to a total of 107.

SleepingDragon
22nd December 2009, 07:25 AM
you might consider the fact that I'm actually lgc/tfe you dumbass
why else would I congratulate ourselves for good actions during the war?

That's usually how it works, Sherlock. A person "congratulates" someone (a group) they want to find favor with, perhaps to bring notice to them for a promotion or "pat on the back." Surprised you aren't more familiar with that practice. What isn't surprising is how you now I'm a dumbass. You're an expert, brown noser! :woot:

AxEHeaD15
22nd December 2009, 10:09 AM
I second that Bloodpirate I think if they dont change things there will be Mass sabbings and farming.

One thing on the New update Where DA/sa tools will be removed just like normal tools
Helps with the SA Accounts, now they cant recycle there bpm ( which is good )
Second it helps aginst the DA accounts because now we dont have to break them >.<

So now the last thing to change is the sab caps, and everything will be uber again for sabbers :)


Mass farmings and mass sabbings is what makes the game fun buddy ;) Ranking is boring.

The sab caps have to be changed yes. But so do the turns, they should be separated.

And for the record I do like the new change about sabbed weapons, that is cool.

Also for the record Pj- it is spelled "try" not "trie" lrn2english.

-AxE

blazed420
22nd December 2009, 10:55 AM
Mass farmings and mass sabbings is what makes the game fun buddy ;) Ranking is boring.

-AxE

Now Axe, I'll normally agree with you, but you are off with your comments this time! /me declares war on Axe!@

:P

Semper.Fidelis
23rd December 2009, 06:47 PM
why else would I congratulate ourselves for good actions during the war?

My guess would be cause you're delusional, or maybe just retarded. I haven't decided yet. Help me decide by anwsering a simple question.
You do realize that w/o sab cap TFE/LGC/TFFfirm and what not would have been zeroed in (as in unsab) in the inital attack, don't you? To prevent that was presumably the reason for the cap. in the first place. If all involved accounts regrow their sab cap with 2hrs of tbg or 180 turns it would have been quite the achievement to lose the war. And now the cpt obvious statement concludes with a highly eloquent yet not to subtle hint "To prove that and provide sufficent data exactly how much it sucks might have been a reason for the war"