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Ghreivyn
30th July 2008, 09:16 PM
so I spy on this guy and determine I have a higher SA than his DA:
Strike Action 248,000

Defensive Action 233,731

I go attack him, he's offline, nothing changed at all, and I get this result:

Your troops inflict 164,374 damage on the enemy!
The enemy sustains 8 casualties!

<snip>'s forces counter-attack and inflict 170,537 damage on your army!
Your army sustains 0 casualties!

My weapons were repaired, and his DA was still lower than my SA..

Idunno wth this is all about but I never had this happen the last time I played (in age 4 or 5)

Explanations?

Shorty5124
30th July 2008, 09:19 PM
i do not know when this was implemented, but to guarantee a hit (no chance at ALL of the attack being defended) you need to make sure your SA is 20% higher than the enemy's DA.

For Example,

The enemy has 100 DA
you would need 120 SA (100 + 20% of DA which is 20) to be sure that you will not fail.

L0B0
31st July 2008, 03:25 AM
Yeah, with a SA a bit higher than opponent's DA, you'll mostly lose the battle...

Doggy21
31st July 2008, 03:50 AM
Which is completely retarded.

SonOfSam
31st July 2008, 04:00 AM
I once attacked this guy twice just to get gold as the first attempt didn't work, but damaged his DA... The difference was around 1000...lol.. so I repaired and hit again, then it worked.

I think the SA/DA battle can be solved by Shorty's simple answer... USE A CALCULATOR!!

R3venge
31st July 2008, 04:40 AM
Yeah, random factor. Pain in the ass.

LordCounter
31st July 2008, 04:44 AM
its actually 10%.

and no this isnt completly retarded because that also means you can attack someone who has 10% more DA than your SA.

and there still is a random factor too that you can only avoid by having more that 10% more SA your targets DA

DikInABox
31st July 2008, 06:53 AM
yeah as lordcounter said it has good points and bad points

for me it it was

last age had 1.2bil sa, TGF had 1.25 bil da >>>>> I won and took 50mil of his gold

last age i attacked back_pass with 900mil sa and lost to his 820mil da.

LoseR
31st July 2008, 07:28 AM
Random factor is really the only exciting thing in this game. Complain all you want, but it makes the attacking system a bit more interesting than:

"I have 5.001 billion SA, so I beat your 5.000 billion DA 100% of the time"

xAre
31st July 2008, 08:26 AM
Its good sometimes, when hitting someone with higher DA.
Its a pain in the ass when losing twice against 1bil lower DA, and stealing 60% the third try :p

chaser1
31st July 2008, 08:58 AM
Ive actually seen it as high as 18% difference so I still think that its safe to say 20% if you want no margin for error.