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Valheru_Prince
22nd January 2008, 06:12 AM
Anyone have a nice table or something we can use to see when to upgrade? The old ones all disappeared.

Santino_Corleone
22nd January 2008, 06:32 AM
Dunno if it still applies but here: http://www.phoenixrising.at/upgrades.html

Ibiza2007
22nd January 2008, 07:57 AM
That thing is just to confuse you anyway. It doesnt seem to make the blindest bit of difference when you upgrade.

tiger45
22nd January 2008, 10:53 AM
this one is old , I think we all need a new chart.

KillerK
22nd January 2008, 12:41 PM
I don't think the upgrades help at all...I got new fortifications and my DA barely went up...And no, I did not sell to buy the upgrade...

xAre
22nd January 2008, 12:50 PM
I don't think the upgrades help at all...I got new fortifications and my DA barely went up...And no, I did not sell to buy the upgrade...

Upgraded at wrong time then.

Peacefighter
22nd January 2008, 07:42 PM
well

Covert Skill opgrade it as fast as you can
it gives a lot

there is a old side to opgrade Fortification and Siege Technology

ask me it still works

http://www.giveupalready.com/showthread.php?t=59606

have fun

Peacefighter

xAre
22nd January 2008, 08:04 PM
http://www.phoenixrising.at/upgrades.html

Should contain all siege/fort with old races. A bit different now with new bonuses and all.

Santino_Corleone
22nd January 2008, 08:09 PM
http://www.phoenixrising.at/upgrades.html

Should contain all siege/fort with old races. A bit different now with new bonuses and all.

http://www.giveupalready.com/showpost.php?p=1078470&postcount=2 ;)

xAre
22nd January 2008, 08:17 PM
http://www.giveupalready.com/showpost.php?p=1078470&postcount=2 ;)
Whops, missed that one :p
Ah well.

pamdora
22nd January 2008, 10:20 PM
This is one i found here on GUA i believe last age, didn't include the UP upgrade as it no longer is relevant.

What i get from this is you wait to reach that amount of Sa or Da and sell that amount of weapons your stats should stay almost exactly the same

Level 1:
Name:Camp
Cost: -
Multiplier: 1
You start with this one

Level 2:
Name:Stockade
Cost: 40,000 Gold
Sell: 1 Invisibility Shield(s) or 1 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 1.25
Upgrade at: 17,778 DA

Level 3:
Name:Rabid Pit bulls
Cost: 80,000 Gold
Sell: 1 Invisibility Shield(s) or 1 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 1.5
Upgrade at: 53,333 DA

Level 4:
Name: Walled Town
Cost: 160,000 Gold
Sell: 1 Invisibility Shield(s) or 1 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 1.75
Upgrade at: 149,333 DA

Level 5:
Name:Towers
Cost 320,000 Gold
Sell: 1 Invisibility Shield(s) or 2 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 2.0
Upgrade at: 398,222 DA

Level 6:
Name: Battlements
Cost: 640,000 Gold
Sell: 1 Invisibility Shield(s) or 4 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 2.25
Upgrade at: 1,024,000 DA

Level 7:
Name:Portcullis
Cost 1,280,000 Gold
Sell: 2 Invisibility Shield(s) or 9 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 2.5
Upgrade at: 2,560,000 DA

Level 8:
Name: Boiling Oil
Cost: 2,560,000 Gold
Sell: 5 Invisibility Shield(s) or 17 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 2.75
Upgrade at: 6,257,778 DA

Level 9:
Name:Trenches
Cost 5,120,000 Gold
Sell: 9 Invisibility Shield(s) or 34 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 3.0
Upgrade at: 15,018,667 DA

Level 10:
Name:Moat
Cost 10,240,000 Gold
Sell: 18 Invisibility Shield(s) or 68 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 3.25
Upgrade at: 35,498,667 DA

Level 11:
Name:Drawbridge
Cost 20,480,000 Gold
Sell: 37 Invisibility Shield(s) or 137 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 3.5
Upgrade at: 82,830,222 DA

Level 12:
Name:Fortress
Cost 40,960,000 Gold
Sell: 73 Invisibility Shield(s) or 273 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 3.75
Upgrade at: 191,146,667 DA

Level 13:
Name:Stronghold
Cost 81,920,000 Gold
Sell: 146 Invisibility Shield(s) or 546 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 4.0
Upgrade at: 436,906,667 DA

Level 14:
Name:Palace
Cost 163,840,000 Gold
Sell: 291 Invisibility Shield(s) or 1092 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 4.25
Upgrade at: 990,321,778 DA

Level 15:
Name:Keep
Cost 327,680,000 Gold
Sell: 583 Invisibility Shield(s) or 2185 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 4.5
Upgrade at: 2,228,224,000 DA

Level 16:
Name:Citadel
Cost 655,360,
000 Gold
Sell: 1165 Invisibility Shield(s) or 4369 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 4.75
Upgrade at: 4,980,736,000 DA

Level 17:
Name: Hand of God
Cost 1,310,720,000 Gold
Sell: 2330 Invisibility Shield(s) or 8738 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 5.0
Upgrade at: 11,068,302,222 DA

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SIEGE TECHNOLOGY

Level 1: None
- Multiplier: 1

Level 2:
Name:Flaming Arrows
Cost 40,000 Gold (1 Black Powder Missile(s) or 1 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 1.33 –
Upgrade at: 15.058 SA

Level 3:
Name:Ballista’s
Cost 80,000 Gold (1 Black Powder Missile(s) or 1 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 1.66 –
Upgrade at: 50.196 SA

Level 4:
Name: Battering Ram
Cost 160,000 Gold (1 Black Powder Missile(s) or 1 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 2.0 –
Upgrade at: 150.588 SA

Level 5:
Name:Ladders
Cost 320,000 Gold (1 Black Powder Missile(s) or 2 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 2.33 –
Upgrade at: 421.647 SA

Level 6:
Name:Trojan Horse
Cost 640,000 Gold (1 Black Powder Missile(s) or 4 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 2.66 –
Upgrade at: 1.124.392 SA

Level 7:
Name:Catapults –
Cost 1,280,000 Gold (2 Black Powder Missile(s) or 9 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 3.0 –
Upgrade at: 2.891.294 SA

Level 8:
Name:War Elephants
Cost 2,560,000 Gold (5 Black Powder Missile(s) or 17 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 3.33 –
Upgrade at: 7.228.235 SA

Level 9:
Name:Siege Towers –
Cost 5,120,000 Gold (9 Black Powder Missile(s) or 34Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 3.66 –
Upgrade at: 17.669.019 SA

Level 10:
Name:Trebuchets –
Cost 10,240,000 Gold (17 Black Powder Missile(s) or 68 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 4.0 –
Upgrade at: 42.405.647 SA

Level 11:
Name: Black Powder –
Cost 20,480,000 Gold (33 Black Powder Missile(s) or 137 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 4.33 –
Upgrade at: 100.231.529 SA

Level 12:
Name: Sappers - Cost 40,960,000 Gold (65 Black Powder Missile(s) or 273 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 4.66 –
Upgrade at: 233.873.568 SA

Level 13:
Name: Dynamite –
Cost 81,920,000 Gold (129 Black Powder Missile(s) or 546 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 5.0 –
Upgrade at: 539.708.235 SA

Level 14:
Name: Greek Fire –
Cost 163.840.000 Gold (258 Black Powder Missiles)
- Multiplier: 5,33 –
Upgrade at: 1.233.618.823 SA

Level15:
Name: Cannons –
Cost 327.680.000 Gold (515 Black Powder Missiles)
- Multiplier: 5,66 –
Upgrade at: 2.796.202.666 SA

vengefuldeath87
23rd January 2008, 12:46 AM
ill get mine updated soon, and make it look a bit nicer too :p

Ibiza2007
23rd January 2008, 04:32 AM
I dont bother with calculators. I just selloff when I have enough weapons for the upgrade. The effect is the same in the long run.

xAre
23rd January 2008, 07:21 AM
This is one i found here on GUA i believe last age, didn't include the UP upgrade as it no longer is relevant.

What i get from this is you wait to reach that amount of Sa or Da and sell that amount of weapons your stats should stay almost exactly the same

Level 1:
Name:Camp
Cost: -
Multiplier: 1
You start with this one

Level 2:
Name:Stockade
Cost: 40,000 Gold
Sell: 1 Invisibility Shield(s) or 1 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 1.25
Upgrade at: 17,778 DA

Level 3:
Name:Rabid Pit bulls
Cost: 80,000 Gold
Sell: 1 Invisibility Shield(s) or 1 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 1.5
Upgrade at: 53,333 DA

Level 4:
Name: Walled Town
Cost: 160,000 Gold
Sell: 1 Invisibility Shield(s) or 1 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 1.75
Upgrade at: 149,333 DA

Level 5:
Name:Towers
Cost 320,000 Gold
Sell: 1 Invisibility Shield(s) or 2 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 2.0
Upgrade at: 398,222 DA

Level 6:
Name: Battlements
Cost: 640,000 Gold
Sell: 1 Invisibility Shield(s) or 4 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 2.25
Upgrade at: 1,024,000 DA

Level 7:
Name:Portcullis
Cost 1,280,000 Gold
Sell: 2 Invisibility Shield(s) or 9 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 2.5
Upgrade at: 2,560,000 DA

Level 8:
Name: Boiling Oil
Cost: 2,560,000 Gold
Sell: 5 Invisibility Shield(s) or 17 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 2.75
Upgrade at: 6,257,778 DA

Level 9:
Name:Trenches
Cost 5,120,000 Gold
Sell: 9 Invisibility Shield(s) or 34 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 3.0
Upgrade at: 15,018,667 DA

Level 10:
Name:Moat
Cost 10,240,000 Gold
Sell: 18 Invisibility Shield(s) or 68 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 3.25
Upgrade at: 35,498,667 DA

Level 11:
Name:Drawbridge
Cost 20,480,000 Gold
Sell: 37 Invisibility Shield(s) or 137 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 3.5
Upgrade at: 82,830,222 DA

Level 12:
Name:Fortress
Cost 40,960,000 Gold
Sell: 73 Invisibility Shield(s) or 273 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 3.75
Upgrade at: 191,146,667 DA

Level 13:
Name:Stronghold
Cost 81,920,000 Gold
Sell: 146 Invisibility Shield(s) or 546 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 4.0
Upgrade at: 436,906,667 DA

Level 14:
Name:Palace
Cost 163,840,000 Gold
Sell: 291 Invisibility Shield(s) or 1092 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 4.25
Upgrade at: 990,321,778 DA

Level 15:
Name:Keep
Cost 327,680,000 Gold
Sell: 583 Invisibility Shield(s) or 2185 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 4.5
Upgrade at: 2,228,224,000 DA

Level 16:
Name:Citadel
Cost 655,360,
000 Gold
Sell: 1165 Invisibility Shield(s) or 4369 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 4.75
Upgrade at: 4,980,736,000 DA

Level 17:
Name: Hand of God
Cost 1,310,720,000 Gold
Sell: 2330 Invisibility Shield(s) or 8738 Dragon skin(s)
Multiplier: 5.0
Upgrade at: 11,068,302,222 DA

----------------------------------------------------------"-----------------------
SIEGE TECHNOLOGY

Level 1: None
- Multiplier: 1

Level 2:
Name:Flaming Arrows
Cost 40,000 Gold (1 Black Powder Missile(s) or 1 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 1.33 –
Upgrade at: 15.058 SA

Level 3:
Name:Ballista’s
Cost 80,000 Gold (1 Black Powder Missile(s) or 1 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 1.66 –
Upgrade at: 50.196 SA

Level 4:
Name: Battering Ram
Cost 160,000 Gold (1 Black Powder Missile(s) or 1 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 2.0 –
Upgrade at: 150.588 SA

Level 5:
Name:Ladders
Cost 320,000 Gold (1 Black Powder Missile(s) or 2 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 2.33 –
Upgrade at: 421.647 SA

Level 6:
Name:Trojan Horse
Cost 640,000 Gold (1 Black Powder Missile(s) or 4 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 2.66 –
Upgrade at: 1.124.392 SA

Level 7:
Name:Catapults –
Cost 1,280,000 Gold (2 Black Powder Missile(s) or 9 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 3.0 –
Upgrade at: 2.891.294 SA

Level 8:
Name:War Elephants
Cost 2,560,000 Gold (5 Black Powder Missile(s) or 17 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 3.33 –
Upgrade at: 7.228.235 SA

Level 9:
Name:Siege Towers –
Cost 5,120,000 Gold (9 Black Powder Missile(s) or 34Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 3.66 –
Upgrade at: 17.669.019 SA

Level 10:
Name:Trebuchets –
Cost 10,240,000 Gold (17 Black Powder Missile(s) or 68 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 4.0 –
Upgrade at: 42.405.647 SA

Level 11:
Name: Black Powder –
Cost 20,480,000 Gold (33 Black Powder Missile(s) or 137 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 4.33 –
Upgrade at: 100.231.529 SA

Level 12:
Name: Sappers - Cost 40,960,000 Gold (65 Black Powder Missile(s) or 273 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 4.66 –
Upgrade at: 233.873.568 SA

Level 13:
Name: Dynamite –
Cost 81,920,000 Gold (129 Black Powder Missile(s) or 546 Excalibur(s))
- Multiplier: 5.0 –
Upgrade at: 539.708.235 SA

Level 14:
Name: Greek Fire –
Cost 163.840.000 Gold (258 Black Powder Missiles)
- Multiplier: 5,33 –
Upgrade at: 1.233.618.823 SA

Level15:
Name: Cannons –
Cost 327.680.000 Gold (515 Black Powder Missiles)
- Multiplier: 5,66 –
Upgrade at: 2.796.202.666 SA

Won't be correct if you have a racial bonus in that stat :p

Valheru_Prince
23rd January 2008, 12:59 PM
thank you venge, i΄ll be looking forward to yours :)

KillerK
23rd January 2008, 06:12 PM
I've never gone higher than Palace and Greek Fire...LOL...Yes, I'm somewhat of a noob.

Danny
23rd January 2008, 07:07 PM
Do the bonuses even do anything to your Upgrade. I don't think they do. Most upgrades are done by %.

Siege is 33% of what you currently have i think.

DarkSage
30th January 2008, 09:32 AM
no its not 33% of what you have it add 0.33 to the multiplier