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Zargarothic
17th February 2007, 06:08 AM
What do big slayers do with the soldiers they get. Train them into att, def leave them like that, or spy and sentry?

gavagai
17th February 2007, 06:37 AM
if they want to do as best as they can they train them into attack soldiers like everybody else. that means that you lose a lot mercs while attacking, but you are in charge of the losses!
to train them to spy/sentry reduces your TBG too much and you are too easy too hurt by masses (slayers normaly dont have a very high DA). and to train them to defense would be even more stupid...

Sixix
17th February 2007, 08:34 AM
it also depends on the tagets avaible. to do decent hits they should have a lower tff than their targets, therefore they train them to coverts if there arent enough targets avaible.
but ts for most players, who actually use their attack turns, like this i guess :)

DOBERMAN
17th February 2007, 10:56 AM
I suggest train to sentries rather than train to coverts. KOC ABC

DeaTH_BLooM
20th February 2007, 09:06 AM
I suggest train to sentries rather than train to coverts. KOC ABC



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sentry?covert???sentry is a covert opereative :P

anyway the best is to train attack but if u wanna hit the targets with low TFF then train into spy-sentry.but as said above u will lose income.it depends on the way u wanna play.

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DOBERMAN
20th February 2007, 02:29 PM
Coverts = spies and what you see when you spy someone. .
Sentries is unspyable

~mini~
20th February 2007, 02:33 PM
Zargarothic

they train most to SA so they can have a goodish TBG (turn base gold) and the rest to eitehr
1.spy > so they can see others gold and DA
2.sent > so people dont attack them and they dont get sabbed

DeathKnight86
20th February 2007, 02:42 PM
i actually train my extra men to DA. i am a decent slayer (some wouldnt agree haha) and i have very low merc loses. I am very active so i dont get attacked often and i buy a lot of DA mercs just incase. it works very well for me

Xzeihoranth
20th February 2007, 03:29 PM
it costs 500,000*2,000=1,000,000,000 gold to train 500,000 men to attack soldiers.
1,000,000,000 gold=1176 BPM
i just leave as untrained and buy mercs, and log in alot to not get attacked.

Sixix
20th February 2007, 05:43 PM
it costs 500,000*2,000=1,000,000,000 gold to train 500,000 men to attack soldiers.
1,000,000,000 gold=1176 BPM
i just leave as untrained and buy mercs, and log in alot to not get attacked.are there slayers with 500k untrained soldiers... kind of hard to believe for me.
you loose less mercs when you train them to attack, than leaving them untrained + you cant loose them if you get massed.
if you got 500k soldiers the gold you shhouldnt have a problem to spend 1 bio on training them ;)

not to train them is probably the most stupid thing to do :p

LoseR
20th February 2007, 05:52 PM
While it may cost a lot to train your soldiers to attack, the fewer casualties you sustain while defending attacks means that there are fewer mercs you have to buy, which in the long run equates to money saved.

Your 500k TFF example is just dumb. can you imagine getting massed with 500k untrained soliders? your talking serious ownage, lol.

Scaramilk
20th February 2007, 06:50 PM
i actually train my extra men to DA. i am a decent slayer (some wouldnt agree haha) and i have very low merc loses. I am very active so i dont get attacked often and i buy a lot of DA mercs just incase. it works very well for me

it might work for you since your TFF is relatively small so losses when you get attacked are minimal. like a lotta ppl mentioned before me, slayers like BP would get owned if they trained soldiers as DA

Xzeihoranth
20th February 2007, 08:49 PM
u assume most people get massed for something
if u dont get massed..it doesnt matter...still alot of gold

Presence
20th February 2007, 10:14 PM
you get 500k untrained soldiers and attack the wrong person... and believe me u'll be missing a lot of men.

Xzeihoranth
20th February 2007, 10:43 PM
people who go that far for an attack should be dragged out into the street and beaten with a baseball bat and then thrown into mike tysons basement to be raped

DeaTH_BLooM
21st February 2007, 11:00 AM
people who go that far for an attack should be dragged out into the street and beaten with a baseball bat and then thrown into mike tysons basement to be raped


no sense.if u attack someone at war and broke his sabbed DA then u will be massed...like it or not.

farm someone in the big clans and u will be massed.

u will lose much more if u dont train them.just make a mistake and hit someone at war ;)


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i3astard
21st February 2007, 11:29 AM
people who go that far for an attack should be dragged out into the street and beaten with a baseball bat and then thrown into mike tysons basement to be raped

That actually is not going far. If you don't trained those soldiers being massed is an excellent strategy for your opponents. They can actually remove you from being a threat. Once your 500k troops are gone, your TBG isn't as good as before, and they can outgrow your SA easily.

As for the original question, you train your soldiers to your playing style. If you are going to be a big slayer, train them to attack. Helps your SA, and keeps you from losing TBG troops (along with merc use) If you are going to be a small slayer, train those troops to spies or sentries. You will have more targets for you to attack. That brings your TBG down, but you make up for that with the "great" attacks you'll be getting. I don't like the idea of training to DA troops (even tho my bud, Deathknight does:)) It's still possible to be massed enough to lose them.

As far as training to spy or sentry, it depends on what's important to you. Train to spy if you like to see more gold. Train to sentry if you're worried about being sabbed, and to help protect your tbg. Even tho slayers live off the gold they steal, TBG is still pretty important.

ms_fishy
21st February 2007, 03:22 PM
for smart slayers there are 3 setups to choose from

1. go low TFF - train busload of soldiers to spy (for seeing gold better) or to sentry (to fool people that he doesnt have lots of coverts and shouldnt be massed)

--> works best for mid-tiered slayers

2. stay high TFF, train all to attack specialist, and keep buying attack mercs - very costly but safest way to farm life out of people

--> best high TBG slayers go with this option and bank a lot (or simply attack for damn good gold to compensate for his own gold loss from being farmed)

3. stay high TFF, train half to attack and half to defense speacialists, and buy gazillion SA and DA mercs - not so costly in terms of losing attack mercs and so more profits - must be cautious not to farm someone in a clan that would mass him into oblivion - must bank good or too many DA mercs get killed

-->a lot of high TFF slayers who arent war prone go with this one, especially if they have good sentry and high nuff DA to avoid getting massed (if not at war, most people wont 5x1 a 2 bil DA account just to kill DA mercs)

xAre
21st February 2007, 11:09 PM
My account is slayer-ish. (To lazy to be slayer, so only slayer-ish :P)
All trained to SA, or well, all except for enough DA to hold my IS.

Get mercs.
No real problem, seeing as I loose from one hundred - two thousand mercs per hit, and make ~60m+ per hit.