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Agent-of-Mayhem
10th October 2006, 06:10 AM
(21:23:01) (DrunkenAgent-) Merv|Zzz
(21:23:03) (DrunkenAgent-) You there
(21:24:49) (Merv|Zzz) wzzp
(21:24:53) (Merv|Zzz) I'm busy though
(21:25:49) (DrunkenAgent-) Why ois Vivlady banned
(21:25:52) (DrunkenAgent-) she doesnt fake
(21:25:52) (DrunkenAgent-) -.-
(21:26:25) (Merv|Zzz) no comment
(21:26:33) (Merv|Zzz) u're the 3rd person
(21:26:40) (Merv|Zzz) we caught her.
(21:26:42) (Merv|Zzz) it's done
(21:26:44) (DrunkenAgent-) Dont be stupid and ban forr no reaoson mate
(21:26:48) (DrunkenAgent-) She doesnt fake dude
(21:26:51) (Merv|Zzz) uhuh
(21:27:32) (DrunkenAgent-) Im serious
(21:27:34) (DrunkenAgent-) thas low
(21:27:37) (DrunkenAgent-) She doesn fake
(21:27:38) (DrunkenAgent-) -.-
(21:27:41) (Merv|Zzz) <Merv|Zzz> we caught her.
(21:27:49) (DrunkenAgent-) Prove that and I will believe you
(21:27:50) (Merv|Zzz) if u don't believe me, we're done talking
(21:28:03) (DrunkenAgent-) Until then I know she doesnt fake Merv
(21:28:19) (DrunkenAgent-) Im still not banned and she clicked forme a few times
(21:29:13) (Merv|Zzz) then those were fine
(21:32:41) (DrunkenAgent-) So prove to me where she faked Merv
(21:32:57) (DrunkenAgent-) I have always had the greatest respect for you
(21:34:00) (Merv|Zzz) I'm telling u we caught her
(21:34:11) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> applejax
(21:34:11) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> bbqqueen
(21:34:11) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> bentarr0w
(21:34:11) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> bigp3n0r
(21:34:11) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> bingo
(21:34:11) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> boilerbaby
(21:34:11) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> boobs_under_cover
(21:34:11) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> cali_shorty
(21:34:11) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> crafty
(21:34:11) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> effedup
(21:34:11) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> El-Hijo_de-Dios
(21:34:12) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> goldisgood
(21:34:13) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> hammering_teh_samurai
(21:34:14) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> im_a_sab_biatch
(21:34:15) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> joodotdilly
(21:34:16) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> kingsperm
(21:34:18) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> Kingzor
(21:34:19) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> lamao
(21:34:20) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> lil_teabag
(21:34:20) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> lololololololololololol
(21:34:22) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> major_pimpin
(21:34:23) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> moreishnessity
(21:34:23) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> mousy
(21:34:24) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> poppywuvsmommy
(21:34:25) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> qwasia
(21:34:27) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> rinky
(21:34:27) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> slinky
(21:34:29) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> spinktor
(21:34:29) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> stiffwilly
(21:34:30) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> tasti_delight
(21:34:31) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> tincup
(21:34:33) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> wheresmyfather
(21:34:33) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> winky_tle_clan
(21:34:34) (Merv|Zzz) [19:07] <Merv> zenzen
(21:34:46) (DrunkenAgent-) And whats wrong with that?
(21:35:02) (Merv|Zzz) those were caught cheating
(21:35:17) (Merv|Zzz) u'll see alot of them in 1 chain...
(21:35:44) (DrunkenAgent-) She clicked on her own account
(21:35:50) (DrunkenAgent-) and sent them from her own account
(21:36:06) (Merv|Zzz) that's cewl.
(21:36:20) (DrunkenAgent-) And they are mainly under TLE
(21:36:21) (DrunkenAgent-) Not her
(21:36:46) (Merv|Zzz) they were back then
(21:36:52) (Merv|Zzz) erwt wsa her officer
(21:36:56) (DrunkenAgent-) That was when TLE was her officer
(21:37:00) (DrunkenAgent-) So what
(21:37:03) (DrunkenAgent-) they arent npow
(21:37:06) (DrunkenAgent-) She got rid of them
(21:37:10) (Merv|Zzz) -_-
(21:37:13) (DrunkenAgent-) So she cant be punished still
(21:37:13) (Merv|Zzz) check that list again
(21:37:16) (Merv|Zzz) it has her name in it
(21:37:16) (DrunkenAgent-) Dont be fucked up dude
(21:37:19) (DrunkenAgent-) thats just gay\
(21:37:24) (DrunkenAgent-) theya re gone from her
(21:37:27) (DrunkenAgent-) Dude she doesnt fake
(21:37:29) (DrunkenAgent-) Provbe to me
(21:37:32) (DrunkenAgent-) not irc logs with names
(21:37:36) (DrunkenAgent-) I can do that too
(21:37:37) (DrunkenAgent-) Merv
(21:37:39) (DrunkenAgent-) t0msky
(21:37:44) (DrunkenAgent-) TheGodFather_LaCN
(21:37:48) (DrunkenAgent-) stes_The_Destroyer
(21:37:54) (DrunkenAgent-) OH NOES THEY CHEAT TOO!
(21:38:05) (DrunkenAgent-) Prove where she actually cheated and I will believe oyu
(21:38:10) (DrunkenAgent-) Until then thats just gay shoyt
(21:40:16) (DrunkenAgent-) And not any of them accounts are under her now
(21:40:20) (DrunkenAgent-) they all have been removed
(21:40:25) (DrunkenAgent-) So dont be retarded



All these accounts where in a chain that was once under Vivlady, of which isnt and hasnt been in a while now. That being The_last_exile's chain.

yet she gets banned for it.

So care to explain yourself and/or show proof as to how Vivlady cheated and hence the reason for her ban.

I see none supplied and your dictatorship just goes to show how low LaCN will stoop. It does however also show the reasons as to why LaCN will not be #1 next age.

With the DarkJudgement recruiter "Nightmare" which will wear the Family of Honor brand also, due out soon, completely recoded and a new interface on a premium server, and an awesome database (I know, I have tested it :> ), and one of which will be supplied in all Mac, Linux, Windows VB and Java formats, a revolutionary step int he ways of recruiters with both single window and the twin window clicking abilities, it will possible wipe lacn's from existance.

Time will tell, but rest, how about we respond Merv, or you other fine leaders of LaCN lol.

Big_popa
10th October 2006, 06:16 AM
yeah am talking to merv and i cant past because i uses java :S

Sixix
10th October 2006, 06:24 AM
hardly any caught fake clickers admit it. its nothing special and the usual farce people start. you remember the second wave of bannings this age?
the first banned people did not have a lobby on GUA so noone tried to stir up trouble.

people are responsible for their recruiter accounts. if someone cheats with it it gets :banned:
if you got banned for cheating simply move onto another recruiter and try to click there...

skater_00
10th October 2006, 06:25 AM
(21:36:46) (Merv|Zzz) they were back then
(21:36:52) (Merv|Zzz) erwt wsa her officer
(21:36:56) (DrunkenAgent-) That was when TLE was her officer
(21:37:00) (DrunkenAgent-) So what
(21:37:03) (DrunkenAgent-) they arent npow
(21:37:06) (DrunkenAgent-) She got rid of them

First of all, don't talk about me like I'm just a piece of rubbish. Agent-, I should hate you for that. :p


Welcome to La Cosa Nostra Family Recruiter!

You are banned from LaCN recruiter. Logout
Reason given: Faker !! 4/10/06

Second, I agree with Agent- that LaCN is turning into one huge dictatorship. Merv also banned me on LaCN last week, and I seriously doubt he can prove that I ever did ONE fake click on "his" recruiter. And if you have any objection, Merv, please reply here with some evidence, but I guess the word "evidence" is not in your dictionary, isn't it Mr. Hitler? Umm Merv.

skater_00
Unreal Army

Big_popa
10th October 2006, 06:36 AM
they wont give you because to them its giving out there secuirty-code >.>

if they tell you how you cheated you can go arround the lacn system

~Stes_The_Destroyer~
10th October 2006, 06:38 AM
clickers are dying wats the prob, well all clickers except septembers anyway LOL

sorry viv for you being banned always liked you :(

but its lacns recruiter and if they wanted to ban cause some1 has goofy teeth or pink hair then its entirely upto them and not no1 else, who cares if tgf aint #1 next age its this one that counts to lacn, next age some 1 new could come and suprise us all, but you take that when it comes, no matter if you have your own recruiter or not you can still get #1 with just your officers clicking on multi clickers and ppl will still use lacn even if more come out, and lacn will use others just as much as theres so come next age if lacn want to try for #1 again then with they chain now its possible and will probably make it even better of a challenge next age :)

~Stes_The_Destroyer~
10th October 2006, 06:45 AM
i believe ya but i aint no acn admin or recruiter admin sorry :(

TheCritic
10th October 2006, 06:47 AM
I see none supplied and your dictatorship just goes to show how low LaCN will stoop. It does however also show the reasons as to why LaCN will not be #1 next age.

With the DarkJudgement recruiter "Nightmare" which will wear the Family of Honor brand also, due out soon, completely recorded and a new interface on a premium server, and an awesome database (I know, I have tested it :> ), and one of which will be supplied in all Linux, Windows VB and Java formats, a revolutionary step int he ways of recruiters with both single window and the twin window clicking abilities, it will possible wipe lacn's from existance.

Car't wait for DarkJudgement's recruiter :weights: It better run on my computer :(

Anyway hoping LaCN's clicker gets wiped :ban-cha:

Sixix
10th October 2006, 06:50 AM
a revolutionary step int he ways of recruiters with both single window and the twin window clicking abilities, it will possible wipe lacn's from existance.lol i missed that one. i cant wait for the single window again. actually i missed it already :p

skater_00
10th October 2006, 07:02 AM
hardly any caught fake clickers admit it.

Actually, I don't care admitting to cheating or not. I did fake credits. I'm just quite curious how Merv finds out fake clicking.

skater_00
Unreal Army

skater_00
10th October 2006, 07:14 AM
But, this isnt about skater faking, sorry

this is about me being falsky accused of it when i barely click to begin with and was negative wheni was banned on the recruiter :/

sorry skate :P

True, but there's no one who knows if it's a false accusation or not, except Merv. Maybe it's not false at all.
Vivlady, also, I was replying to Sixix, so please no comments needed.

Agent-of-Mayhem
10th October 2006, 07:14 AM
Ok I meant preview window lol

Sorry drunk a bit haha :P Anyways it will be a good recruiter as it will be fully available to nearly all platforms. A linux versionw ill be produced but isnt planned at the moment with a date.

I believe they are currently working on the interface as it is the only thing left for the Visual Basic version of "Nightmare" and will have a working beta available sometime this week :P

But yes, back on topic. Merv, or another admin, show this proof because all you have given is names that arent in her chain.


Thats like banning FF for fake clicking, and BSS at the same time as FF was once in BSS chain at the start age too -.-

Morgenstern
10th October 2006, 07:24 AM
Why should they ban her if there isnt a reason? Shes growing superfast that shes gonna catch TGF? And its their recruiter they have the right to do what they want with it.

Sixix
10th October 2006, 07:35 AM
Actually, I don't care admitting to cheating or not. I did fake credits. I'm just quite curious how Merv finds out fake clicking.

skater_00
Unreal Armythis is the reason no recruiter admin tells how they detect cheaters :)

same with other recruiters. i have never seen anyone providing proofs...

if somebody is going to make another recruiter, it will be good for every clicker outthere and we all will get more soldiers :weights:

MFnBonsai
10th October 2006, 07:53 AM
Maybe you are being pen1sised for past offences viv that you didnt even commit....

if you were banned for fake clicking it was probably because the account fake clicked and was banned from LaCN and CW recruiters before it was given to you....

back then Merv removed the ban and also venge removed the ban from CW.... although venge was a bit reluctant to but he did after he was told the account was given to you after you were hacked for the upteenth time....

maybe Merv can come here and post not the proof but the dates that your account had fake clicked and then we can see if it was back then and also see that you were not in control of the account.... if atleast that is the case he can then admit it wasnt you faking and that will atleast clear your name in this instance....

Merv is from my experience dealing with him a fair guy.... surely 5 mins out of his time to deal with this situation and put his perspective on it shouldnt be too hard....

Merv_LaCN`
10th October 2006, 08:06 AM
Whahaha

Fine thread u made Viv...
really.. why should I explain myself to Agent ?
He turned against our Family, so please, don't use that as evidence, lol
I have nothing to say to him.

Last week we caught the following cheaters:

applejax
bbqqueen
bentarr0w
bigp3n0r
bingo
boilerbaby
boobs_under_cover
cali_shorty
crafty
effedup
El-Hijo_de-Dios
goldisgood
hammering_teh_samurai
im_a_sab_biatch
joodotdilly
kingsperm
Kingzor
lamao
lil_teabag
lololololololololololol
major_pimpin
moreishnessity
mousy
poppywuvsmommy
qwasia
rinky
slinky
spinktor
stiffwilly
tasti_delight
tincup
wheresmyfather
winky_tle_clan
zenzen


Ow, yeah Viv forgot to mention that erwt was her officer that time...
Ow, and now she also states she banned him, while someone else is saying it wsan't cause of the faking...


fact L:
THere were soo many fakers under mR_mOtA_hEaD
fact a:
The LaCN admins came to play koc, not to spent hours as a cop
fact C:
Honoust recruiter-users musn't be harmed by cheaters/fakers
fact N:
Every clicker is responsible for their own account. And we help u with that, with our transfer-system. So no need to click for eachother.
solution LaCN:
We banned the fakers, and the rest (abt 10peeps) in mR_mOtA_hEaD's chain.




And what do we get again ?
Some crying crap on our shoulders...
"ow, it's not fair"
"I didn't fake"


Real piece of work u are...



That was a few days after we caught erwt aka skater_00

Session Start: Thu Oct 05 21:00:00 2006
Session Ident: skater_00
[21:00] Session Ident: skater_00 (skate.owns@Cyanide-B50E9A1B.access.telenet.be)
[21:00] <skater_00> hi
-
[21:00] skater_00 is skate.owns@Cyanide-B50E9A1B.access.telenet.be * skate
[21:00] skater_00 on +#the_ac #kingsofchaos #nameless #help %#weed +#Popa +#unreal #relentless +#fearlessforce +#cosanostra
[21:00] skater_00 using godzilla.cyanide-x.net Cyanide-x
[21:00] skater_00 is a Bot on Cyanide-x
[21:00] skater_00 has been idle 1sec, signed on Thu Oct 05 13:05:41
[21:00] skater_00 End of /WHOIS list.
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[21:00] <skater_00> how can i be unbanned from lacn recruiter?
[21:00] <Merv> wht's ur ip ?
[21:00] <skater_00> 84.197.144.134
[21:01] <skater_00> i got the faker from an lacn member
[21:01] <skater_00> told me it was undetectible
[21:01] <skater_00> so i wanted to try it out
[21:01] <skater_00> i had 8,660 credits that weren't faked
[21:01] <Merv> when did u get banned ?
[21:02] <skater_00> 2 hours and 12 minutes ago
[21:03] <Merv> :S what's ure name then ?
[21:03] <skater_00> erwt
[21:03] <skater_00> Cacturne_PR
[21:03] <skater_00> Oswolt
[21:03] <skater_00> my 2 officers
[21:03] <skater_00> also got banned
[21:04] <skater_00> maybe brechtrobert and KristehHand were banned too
[21:04] <skater_00> so if u could check that
[21:04] <Merv> Once u're banned for faking, u stay banned



Don't blame us for protecting the ones that do play fair...
Next to that, we take pride in our systems.
If you want to cheat on our system, u ain't welcome.
If you want to cry and throw dirty stuff at us, we ain't even gonna listen to u anymore.

Evil_Scarecrow
10th October 2006, 08:15 AM
Merv this may be of topic but since this out in the open about the faking etc etc
what about people who were banned cause they bought clicks and there supposed to have fake clicked and you had no proof they fake clicked
and so you banned them and sabbed them what kind of bull shit is that?

MFnBonsai
10th October 2006, 08:17 AM
@Merv.... you still havent stated whether viv's IP was the one faking the clicks.... im sure its not that hard to say it was her IP or not....

Im sure viv wont click on LaCN recruiter even if she was not banned right now.... but you have listed officers that were not under her.... im sure all viv wants is her name to be cleared from this fake clicking accusation....

I'd even give you her IP address on mIRC or you can tell me the IP that was used to click on her account that faked....

no one likes to be accused of faking especially if they havent done it.... i know there was a time that you accused one of my subs of faking and i had her removed from chain as a result and she didnt even fake....

Merv_LaCN`
10th October 2006, 08:23 AM
u're welcome to give her ip

/me wonders why he still is nice after all that crap from viv.


but anyway, if this is the second time someone else was doing her clicks for her...
everyone shouldnt' share eachothers login. If u'r account gets caught, u're banned.
Yeah, sometimes tehre's baddasses out there, and we are friendly people, so we look into it..
This time however is the 2nd time :eek: it happens to Viv...
Why should I waste my time looking at boring logs, while she's being convienant ?

CrippledLucifer-
10th October 2006, 08:26 AM
that post says it all. goodnight :cry3:



on another note, i give some respect to skater_00 for coming out and admitting he did fake. now if ya want my two cents: LaCN admins would NEVER ban someone without reason. whoever has been banned this age, despite protesting like a PMCA mother in distress outside of a Twisted Sister gig, in the end it was more or less proven they did fake. and i really wonder why instead of saying "job well done LacN admins, thankya for makin sure we get the clicks we're doing back, instead of losing them to a computer geek who decided to fake his way", every single freakin time there's people moaning about us banning people for no reason or being unfair.

in this occasion, well only Viv really knows if she fake clicked, and i doubt she did. but when the recruiter admins come out and say that account did fake click, then yeah i accept that fact. as Bon said, either the previous owner faked or Viv gave her recruiter account to someone to click for her and her offies, who turned out to be a lazy bastard and faked. albeit with transfers allowed i don't see why the latter should happen. anyways, there's always a reason behind each ban, let's not make Viv a GUA martyr. despite popular belief, we're not bloodthirsty savages roaming koc for our prey, and we don't sit in our private rooms laughing our arses off and banning whoever looks at us the wrong way. so for all PMCA mothers in distress like Agent, to get back to the fist example, instead of protesting like mad why dont ya come inside Twisted Sister is playing we can bang our heads, wear silly clothes and all that :p

Sixix
10th October 2006, 08:41 AM
perhaps you got keyloggers again on your computer and somebody did crap with your recruiter account. nevertheless that would be your problem and not ours :p how often did you loose your koc account already to socalled hackers? make your computer more safe, if you want to be the only one who has control about accounts that run in your name.

:ohboy:

Sixix
10th October 2006, 08:51 AM
sorry this was not meant to be insulting, but if it wasnt you than it was somebody else using your acount. thats it :s

Agent-of-Mayhem
10th October 2006, 08:52 AM
Merv, when did I turn against LaCN? I did everything for you, numerous times.

When I quit LaCN, I quit because of a few reasons and they were stated in my quitting posta t the start of the age. I didnt sab LaCN through numerous wars despite LaCN/ES sabs on myself. When I was massed by ES/LaCN members for farming, which wasnt even farming but a few goldhits, and you call it 'Chain Farming' that was when I started sabbing.

So dont say I turned against LaCN< I can actually prove to you, and you damn well KNOW it, that I never turned m back on you guys.

LordCounter
10th October 2006, 08:59 AM
Merv:

fact C:
Honoust recruiter-users musn't be harmed by cheaters/fakers


You are banned from LaCN recruiter. Logout
Reason given: Your chain (Euthie-) is banned for fake clicking



I have never fake clicked, recieved any fake clicks or gave credits to persons who fake click. Id say im a 'honoust recruiter-user'

yet you ban me because of some guy i dont even know


L: banning ppl who dont cheat makes no sense
A: dont explain makes no sense either
C: abusing power is pretty sad
N: get a life
Conclusion: LaCN SUCKS

Sixix
10th October 2006, 09:07 AM
lol this thread turns in to get funny. prolly it will get closed soon as everything is said already :p

@LordCounter: if you really mind that you are still banned you should you can try to get unbanned like other got unbanned aswell ;)

lita
10th October 2006, 09:11 AM
well its true they do suck, its all he does this and she does that so instead of bannin those people they ban the whole chain and their pets too.

you class fake clickin the same as stealin so we will look at it this way if someone came and stole from u do you think the whole family would go to jail for it?

so unless u have the proof that she fake clicked and can show it to her now then u should just state that u are bannin her because of mr_mota_head being her commander because that truely seems to be how petty lacn are

Merv_LaCN`
10th October 2006, 09:13 AM
Merv:



You are banned from LaCN recruiter. Logout
Reason given: Your chain (Euthie-) is banned for fake clicking



I have never fake clicked, recieved any fake clicks or gave credits to persons who fake click. Id say im a 'honoust recruiter-user'

yet you ban me because of some guy i dont even know


L: banning ppl who dont cheat makes no sense
A: dont explain makes no sense either
C: abusing power is pretty sad
N: get a life
Conclusion: LaCN SUCKS
Wow, now u notice...

Come to our forum, and we'll help u out, like we did with the rest months ago ;)

ms_fishy
10th October 2006, 09:27 AM
1. im pretty sure merv and lacn admins wouldnt say some accounts fakeclicked if they didn't - it doesnt make sense doing that - and for all the bad things about LACN we heard, they still arent the type that do things just for spite

2. i don't think viv meant to fakeclick either (she's never a mad clicker - someone who fakeclicks usually got overabundant supplies of credits, etc) but its a known fact that a few people around her did

conclusion - someone fakeclicked using her account, most likely her trusted friend - viv must know who but isn't naming

i dont think lacn was wrong banning her account, how were they supposed it wasnt viv herself who did it

anyhow, unban her this time if viv's IP and IP that was used to fakeclick dont match - just to be 'the' good guy LOL

Merv_LaCN`
10th October 2006, 10:07 AM
1. im pretty sure merv and lacn admins wouldnt say some accounts fakeclicked if they didn't - it doesnt make sense doing that - and for all the bad things about LACN we heard, they still arent the type that do things just for spite

2. i don't think viv meant to fakeclick either (she's never a mad clicker - someone who fakeclicks usually got overabundant supplies of credits, etc) but its a known fact that a few people around her did

conclusion - someone fakeclicked using her account, most likely her trusted friend - viv must know who but isn't naming

i dont think lacn was wrong banning her account, how were they supposed it wasnt viv herself who did it

anyhow, unban her this time if viv's IP and IP that was used to fakeclick dont match - just to be 'the' good guy LOL
Good plan liz :)

Though, also gotta make up our mind on that whole chain, where of erwt/skater and his merry men are active alot...
banning someone is one thing..
..someone creating 5 new accounts is another.. :rolleyes:
(this is not abt viv, if that wasn't clear)

LordCounter
10th October 2006, 10:17 AM
oh yea right

you ban me for no reason and then im suppose to stick my neck out to make your faults right

how about you go to DO_NOT_B1TCH and then press the UNBANN THIS VERY FAIR CLICKER

Merv_LaCN`
10th October 2006, 10:26 AM
I'll get back to u on that...

Since u're in the same chain Th3_5hy7ock_R3turn5 aka The_Last_Exile (known cheater who got banned), and his chain had fakers too, which we banned.
It were so many in there, we chainbanned TLE.
Dunno when, could been 3 weeks orso ago.
Looks like many cheaters ganged up this age..
(I'm not saying u fake)
And then we see those new names above them..

Viv, don't u want to leave from erwt ?

Sixix
10th October 2006, 10:26 AM
oh yea right

you ban me for no reason and then im suppose to stick my neck out to make your faults right

http://www.giveupalready.com/showpost.php?p=754698&postcount=2086
http://www.giveupalready.com/showpost.php?p=754768&postcount=2098
shouldnt be a big problem if you want to make it more fair :)

EworTam-
10th October 2006, 10:37 AM
Well let's just thank our lucky stars that the KoC admins aren't as active in banning cheats as the LaCN admins.

edit: In case it's not obvious I'm joking.

l0_0l
10th October 2006, 10:55 AM
Well let's just thank our lucky stars that the KoC admins aren't as active in banning cheats as the LaCN admins.
So you're thankful that the admins dont ban cheaters... b/c it would mean EworTam gets banned?

hahaha... mods, please keep this thread open... the parade of idiots is providing mucho entertainment for elo

Agent-of-Mayhem
10th October 2006, 11:11 AM
Small things amiuse small minds Elo.


And the issue with LordCounter should have been fixed without him having to go out of his way.

skater_00
10th October 2006, 12:40 PM
Merv, I'm not asking to unban me, and I know you wouldn't do it either, even if I asked you. I admitted to fake clicking. No elo, I wasn't scared at all to do it (just to prevent some stupid and pointless reply again from you, because we all know you're seriously in love with most cheaters). Back to Merv, don't you think it's ridiculous to punish an entire chain, only because one chain member has faked clicks (including the chain member's officers) ? I seriously doubt Vivlady has faked 1 click on LaCN, but if you're going to punish entire chains for the actions of one chain member, then I suggest you go jump off a cliff and not attempt to come back.

skater_00
Unreal Army

lita
10th October 2006, 01:00 PM
Merv, I'm not asking to unban me, and I know you wouldn't do it either, even if I asked you. I admitted to fake clicking. No elo, I wasn't scared at all to do it (just to prevent some stupid and pointless reply again from you, because we all know you're seriously in love with most cheaters). Back to Merv, don't you think it's ridiculous to punish an entire chain, only because one chain member has faked clicks (including the chain member's officers) ? I seriously doubt Vivlady has faked 1 click on LaCN, but if you're going to punish entire chains for the actions of one chain member, then I suggest you go jump off a cliff and not attempt to come back.

skater_00
Unreal Army

dam skate i couldnt have found better words myself, problem is lacn are so far up there own we are the law asses ( like gua mods lol) that they cant admit they have gone too far and banned the wrong people so now they are makin up 15 different reasons as to why they have banned her in the hope that she will drop it and they will never have to admit they made the wrong decision

Dpunk
10th October 2006, 01:36 PM
lol, merv is just a bitch, i know viv didnt fake cause i offered her my lacn faker and she said she wouldnt do it cause she didnt want to get banned. Merv is just a bitch, koc is dead and fucked up and i'm glad i'm one of the reasons it got fucked up.

Dpunk
Unreal Army

lita
10th October 2006, 01:52 PM
lol, merv is just a bitch, i know viv didnt fake cause i offered her my lacn faker and she said she wouldnt do it cause she didnt want to get banned. Merv is just a bitch, koc is dead and fucked up and i'm glad i'm one of the reasons it got fucked up.

not meanin to sound nasty towards my sxc ho at all but how many people honestly think she would know how to fake click, i mean cmon she cant even make my lunch without fuckin burnin it and all i asked for was a salad :p

but yea D merv is a bitch and as my new quote of the week goes



SLAP THE BITCH

TSK
10th October 2006, 03:05 PM
lmaooooooooooooo......

lacn tyranny...

Conpmana
10th October 2006, 03:26 PM
Ever hear the saying "he who has the gold makes the rules" kind of fits here.

DragonianWolf
10th October 2006, 06:14 PM
There are ways that even a FOOL can see cheaters. I've seen some of the logs, and not just from Merv. When I did some calculations, it came out that certain people were able to do *500* keystrokes per second.......or mourse-clicks. Try and figure out a way to do that and you could make a small fortune in typing dictation.

Yeah, we're the bad guys here, we have this unique way of hacking your systems when you log into the recruiter, and we grab all youd logs, and then sit down and read them all. NOT

I'll be honest, it's EASY to tell when cheaters are active. Last week my click returns dropped by 25%, but my balance was dropping at the normal rate. Where did 25% of my soldiers go..........to CHEATERS.

Sure, we may have snagged a few that could've been hacked and used, could've shared their account info with the wrong person, but it's not our job to verify that. Each person is responsible for their own account - nobody else. We have the transfer option to stop the need to share account info. Viv, I like you, but in this you are wrong. If you shared your info and got snagged, that's on YOU, not us. ANYONE can do clicks for another and just transfer those clicks.

BTW, Merv shares the info he finds and sees how the other leaders feel about, so he's not in this alone. More than once we've had heated debates, other times we've let things slide and watched, others we've (and I say more than one of us at any given time) may have jumped the gun. We are human.

On the other hand, every timewe get the slightest bit light on watching for cheaters, we end up with a huge cheater ambush smacking us in the head. So now we police the recruiter, and if there's a doubt, we ban, simple as that. We'd all like some time to play the game, after all.

I've talked with several cheaters who admitted it to me, and said things like, "I only did 1k to try it out........etc.......etc........etc" Well, it adds up and does nothing but hurt other players who play honestly. Is that fair to them? I don't think so. We will continue to try to protect the honest clickers.

In short, DON'T share your login info, check your transfers and activity, and ABOVE ALL, if you see something strange, NOTIFY one of the leaders ASAP. I hang on irc all day, may be afk at work, but I'm there and check all PM's. I check and answer koc PM's on a daily basis (unless out of town). Still we deserve to be able to play the game as much as any other player.

Wolfie

whitewulf
10th October 2006, 06:17 PM
El-Hijo_de-Dios None 4 hours ago



Current Version of Clicker - 1.1.16 Still the fastest clicker :P.
Download it from here

Welcome to La Cosa Nostra Family Recruiter!

You are banned from LaCN recruiter. Logout
Reason given: Faker !! 8/10/06









at last hehe
I faked about 120,000 muahahaha

At least he admits to having faked, wonder how long it will take for the others ......

lita
10th October 2006, 06:21 PM
well how about u get off ur 25 hour long postin high horse and figure out that she aint faked or let anyone else in that account, u sit the all high and mighty sayin all this but have u shown her the proof u have for the reason u banned her i believe the answer is not so until u can show without any doubt that she is cheating then unban her already

CrippledLucifer-
10th October 2006, 06:32 PM
it's been said a gazillion times that we don't ban people without reason. lita i know Viv is your friend and you're defending her like your life depended on it, but still just READ THE POSTS ABOVE. as i said already, Viv might be innocent in this and i don't believe she personally faked. either the previous owner of the account faked or she gave her login to someone else who fake clicked in her account. why would we ban Viv for no reason?!@ we're not complete jackasses or mean lean banning machines who ban people just for looking at us the wrong way. we dont just sit in our priv rooms discussing who we're gonna ban next just like that. what would we have to earn for banning Viv without reason?! this has become more an attention problem or Viv being a GUA martyr, than anything else...

lita
10th October 2006, 06:39 PM
no it has become a matter of the principal of u still havent showed her the proof u have for the banning, and as i believe she had already been banned from the recruiter when she first received the account so what would be the point in rebannin her now for the same reason? and you all keep refering to previous posts of yours so im gunna do the same, has she seen the evidence you have?


also as i believe (please feel free to correct me if im wrong)you allow clickin usin proxies or even using dynamic ip so how can u not rule out that option for the extra ip addy you seem so content in tellin us all is in the login

DragonianWolf
10th October 2006, 06:45 PM
Viv has been hacked again, to the best of what we can see...........at least if she hasn't cheated. Still, it is NOT OUR JOB to verify every cheat, just to stop them from continuing.
By bringing it public, much has been lost............so much more could be accomplished in private.

It'll be a cold day in hell when we give our tools away in public. It's still easy to see when cheaters get active...........when clicks lost <> soldiers gained, plus same for chain.........it's easy to see when cheaters are busy...........

CrippledLucifer-
10th October 2006, 06:51 PM
remember that last time we posted proof in GUA (it was back then when Euthie and matt were still claiming to be innocent, though by now everyone knows they faked) everyone said it was fake logs and stuff, so there's no point in providing proof in a public forum that feeds on speculation. everyone will just refuse its authenticity and keep claiming to be innocent. after all, instead of having Agent post a thread like this (guaranteed controversy, GUA masses luv this shit), Viv could have contacted recruiter admins privately and ask for the proof to be provided. anyways i still dont get it why we would ban Viv for no reason... so plz dont get on with the proof issue, i'm sure even if proof was given, you'd still cackle we made that up etc...

Ady
10th October 2006, 06:52 PM
i know a guy thats faked 400k plus, he made his own faker and still sells clicks today

ill never say who it is, purely because you guys banned me for an officer faking 3k on my account


that is all

CrippledLucifer-
10th October 2006, 07:01 PM
that's not nice :ohboy:

Ady if someone was caught faking using your account, then how are we supposed to know what's going on. the most sensible thing would be to ban your account. The transfer system is there so you dont' have to share logins mate. so you know someone who's stealing clicks from everyone and you aint gonna do anything about it :p what can i say....

lita
10th October 2006, 07:01 PM
Viv has been hacked again, to the best of what we can see...........at least if she hasn't cheated. Still, it is NOT OUR JOB to verify every cheat, just to stop them from continuing.

nobody said that now did they so dont go jumpin the gun just yet well not until uv read everythin, this account of hers has not been hacked but because it was given to her she was banned from usin the recruiter i can only guess from the reason of..... im not quite sure why



It'll be a cold day in hell when we give our tools away in public. It's still easy to see when cheaters get active.

nobody asked you to do that either, all that was asked of u was to show some sort of proof, not public proof, but to show something to her to back up the reason why she was banned from the recruiter

and tyvm ady for more info we really didnt need to know

LeStat
10th October 2006, 07:09 PM
Say I owned a gun store. I sell guns to customers. If my guns kept reappearing at crime scenes, I would be closed down.

Viv may not have faked clicked but the account definately has. Her account, her password. She screws up it isn't our job mend it. We don't get paid for this. Viv should keep a tighter control of her passwords. I lost count of the number of times her KoC account has been hacked. Like Merv said, we allow transfer of clicks so no need to account share.

lita
10th October 2006, 07:12 PM
well if that is the case then show her some sort of proof of that because atm it seems too much like bullshit, the reason she was banned has changed twice so it seems to me like u all cant make ur minds up

lita
10th October 2006, 07:24 PM
lmao its the only ball they have between them


but i think all 3 of those brain cell workin at once has made them a little confuzzled on what reason they actually have for bannin you

lets just right it off as they banned you for a wrong reason and now they r not man enough to at least admit it so they are lookin for different reasons to use but are still not willin to prove it to you

lita
10th October 2006, 07:27 PM
well that is quite an acheivement i guess but its still all shit

whitewulf
10th October 2006, 07:32 PM
i know a guy thats faked 400k plus, he made his own faker and still sells clicks today

ill never say who it is, purely because you guys banned me for an officer faking 3k on my account


that is all


You allowed someone else to fake with your account, and you blame LaCN ....

Some people never cease to amaze me

CrippledLucifer-
10th October 2006, 07:33 PM
we made a shitload of points in this thread, yet you still chose to read only each other's posts and cackle like hens... way to go. Viv you're once again the victim hun :cry3:

lita
10th October 2006, 07:34 PM
so lets see then some guy has fakes 400k but you couldnt figure that out but viv clicks less than 1k most days and u class her as faking, oh wait yea thats the lacn double standard rule again or lacn are full of dumbasses

Conpmana
10th October 2006, 08:05 PM
so lets see then some guy has fakes 400k but you couldnt figure that out but viv clicks less than 1k most days and u class her as faking, oh wait yea thats the lacn double standard rule again or lacn are full of dumbasses

Calling them dumb ass's wont get viv anywhere, I have made over 100k clicks this age and I hate clicking, I have been offered fake clickers and auto buyers and I have turned them down, no bankers so no one has access to my account"Yes I cheated once by using an account to mess with FF and BSS learned my lesson and moved on". You wonít see me going nuts about being "hacked" because it wonít happen. If they banned viv someone either faked under it or transferred fake clicks to the account, unless you believe LACN has it out for viv. I think it sucks to have your account banned for fake clicking if you didnít do it and do I think viv did, hell no "I might be a pain viv but I like ya" They have banned entire chains for someone faking under them right, this is not just LACN against viv right? Then you want proof, LACN owns the clicker itís not property of the KOC game so its there rules, so I have to agree how ever they find fakers keep it to yourself.

lita
10th October 2006, 08:14 PM
no but proof of a different ip addy in her login between the previous owner and hers, its not hard to show that, but as we stated earleir they said they banned her for fake clickers in her chain but only to find out those players werent in her chain and then they turned it round to say it was other player who also werent in chain and now they are sayin she is fakin oh cmon even you should be able to see they havent got a clue between them

tsom_ac
10th October 2006, 08:22 PM
Using any process which enables clicking of a unique link more than once per day by the same person



this is in the KoC rules lacn provides a means to cheat with proxys...Dynamic IPs also is cheating so get bussy guys go ban...... go on

DragonianWolf
10th October 2006, 08:25 PM
nobody said that now did they so dont go jumpin the gun just yet well not until uv read everythin, this account of hers has not been hacked but because it was given to her she was banned from usin the recruiter i can only guess from the reason of..... im not quite sure why




nobody asked you to do that either, all that was asked of u was to show some sort of proof, not public proof, but to show something to her to back up the reason why she was banned from the recruiter

and tyvm ady for more info we really didnt need to know


The new bans are due to new activity IN THE PAST WEEK. Shall I go to past posts and quote Viv when she said she gave her info to another to click for her? Yes, I read the thread before I posted. Let me remind everyone that we added the transfer option so ANYONE could click for another and then transfer the clicks. Sorry, but I do read, know how to read, and do tend to think beyond the box.

Viv shared...........even *if* the person she gave her account info to cheated or not, *someone* got that info..........

Viv, do you have a firewall? Do you run anti-everything every night? Do you keep your personal info quiet in places like irc? Who can say any of us are *clean*...........it's still not lacn's JOB to trace every cheater, other than proving it and banning.

lita
10th October 2006, 08:30 PM
well we are still waitin on the provin part so until then lets have less of the 55 reason why that never add up from 1 lacn member to the next

on a side note if u are goin to talk bullshit plz talk amongst urselves first to get ur dam stories right so that we all dont have to listen to different shades of shit everytime 1 of you post

lita
10th October 2006, 08:38 PM
well i aint clicked in a long time but now i remember why coz of the b/s that surrounds it, i mean at least with pr u get some sort of proof as to why ur banned and they seem to keep the same story but with lacn they aint got a clue what to do or say coz they dont know the real reason u r still banned

DragonianWolf
10th October 2006, 08:54 PM
BOTH of you can STICK it..............seriously, talk to me at your leisure.
I don't hide the ways to contact me...........

Monkey_kid
10th October 2006, 08:56 PM
i say that you either provide proof that she fake clicked, or i can say that you dunno wtf your talking about :D
comon guys, i can make a list of people i don't like too, that doesn't prove that she did anything wrong, good job on banning whole chains just because of 1 person too, i'll be laughing my ass off when lacn don't win this age cus they banned everyone

don't be stupid banning people who did nothing wrong

and btw:


so lets see then some guy has fakes 400k but you couldnt figure that out but viv clicks less than 1k most days and u class her as faking, oh wait yea thats the lacn double standard rule again or lacn are full of dumbasses

too true :)

lita
10th October 2006, 09:06 PM
BOTH of you can STICK it..............seriously, talk to me at your leisure.
I don't hide the ways to contact me...........

now now dont be gettin ur thong all twisted, take a minute to regroup, is that better? :p

now see u didnt want to add more to the b/s pile we have which is cool, i mean at the end of the day as viv said it is ur recruiter so if u dont want her unbanned by all means u wont unban her but ffs why dont u just say look we know u aint faked we just dont want u usin our recruiter because u are friends with cheaters.

Monkey_kid
10th October 2006, 09:17 PM
There will be NO proof shown in public.................but, like I said, you must be IDIOTS if you can't figure out how we track cheaters.

most other recruiters can show proof of bans so they don't look like complete dumbasses, so does that mean you made it like that so you could make pitiful excuses like this?

lita
10th October 2006, 09:28 PM
There will be NO proof shown in public.................but, like I said, you must be IDIOTS if you can't figure out how we track cheaters.


nobody is askin for it to be made public ffs, all that has ever been asked is that u show viv in private so she can see if ur not b/sing like we all know u r

r0b-dog
10th October 2006, 10:31 PM
i have to agree with agent.. with Merv without showing decent evidence to the banned player it shouldnt be counted as a banned, as it would be now counted as a random banned..

and hope the DarkJudgement Recuriter goes well..

lita
10th October 2006, 10:54 PM
both of u shut it


well i was tryin to make a point but i can now see i shouldnt have bothered tryin


back to moanin, it is still left as to the point of lacn randomly bannin people when the feel the need to, so idk do u lot not have better things to do like maybe findin real cheaters rather then bannin randoms

jarek
10th October 2006, 11:27 PM
Thats flaming :P

Basicly you get out your growth tracker, check who has the biggest growth and ban them. Because you dont want them catching TGF_LaCN. Astral was growing quickly and was banned, and instead of banning the one person you ban the chain to cease growth of the head account because of Euthie- fake clicking. Yes you will find fake clickers and yes they should be banned but the Astral one was just to stop her growing.

So you guys do SUCK! :P

lol do you know anything thats going on in the world??? astral was banned for boosting euthie and when euthies account got baned from koc the whole lgc chain was unbanned damn so many dumb people in the world

TheCritic
10th October 2006, 11:52 PM
lol do you know anything thats going on in the world??? astral was banned for boosting euthie and when euthies account got baned from koc the whole lgc chain was unbanned damn so many dumb people in the world

My point was that LaCN ban the WHOLE chain instead of the one person. And you just said Astral was banned for boosting Euthie-, maybe if Astral was under Euthie- the whole age you might have more of an arguement.

Please tell what Astral did to get banned from LaCN recruiter?

Oh right nothing, i guess others in your chain are resposible for your account when they get banned you get banned?



fact L:
THere were soo many fakers under mR_mOtA_hEaD
fact a:
The LaCN admins came to play koc, not to spent hours as a cop
fact C:
Honoust recruiter-users musn't be harmed by cheaters/fakers
fact N:
Every clicker is responsible for their own account. And we help u with that, with our transfer-system. So no need to click for eachother.
solution LaCN:
We banned the fakers, and the rest (abt 10peeps) in mR_mOtA_hEaD's chain.

Don't blame us for protecting the ones that do play fair...
Next to that, we take pride in our systems.
If you want to cheat on our system, u ain't welcome.
If you want to cry and throw dirty stuff at us, we ain't even gonna listen to u anymore.

Hmmm... Look at the parts high-lighted, if you are innocent you will be banned, if your honest you will be banned, and 1 person in your chain is responsible for everyone in there chain...

Sixix
11th October 2006, 02:17 AM
most other recruiters can show proof of bans so they don't look like complete dumbasses, so does that mean you made it like that so you could make pitiful excuses like this?please link a few. i must have missed them :)

this is the same pointless discussion again. im wondering, how most of the posters here can know that noone did cheat with viv's account. how come you know that? if someone got the login, even viv wouldnt notice whats happening with her account, but you guys know for sure?

:argue_2:

skater_00
11th October 2006, 04:35 AM
What the fuck! Is this bullshit still going on? Just leave it stupid kids. Merv told me last week: "Once you're banned for fake clicking, you STAY banned and will NOT be unbanned." Just stop crying and whining and blah blah blah'ing about a stupid ban, shiiiit do fucking normal -.-

By the way, Ady, I gotta love the guy who has faked 400k+ clicks so far, lmao that's really nice! XD

skater_00
Unreal Army

Monkey_kid
11th October 2006, 04:35 AM
please link a few. i must have missed them :)

this is the same pointless discussion again. im wondering, how most of the posters here can know that noone did cheat with viv's account. how come you know that? if someone got the login, even viv wouldnt notice whats happening with her account, but you guys know for sure?

:argue_2:
well..its kinda obvious if she gets a message saying 'You have been banned for faking'
err..doesn't cw or revo provide proof of bans if requested?

and if noone knows, then it must be lousy admining of lacn recruiter and banning people for the sake of it with no proof

skater_00
11th October 2006, 04:38 AM
Vivlady, you have been banned.

Vivlady, you will stay banned.

Vivlady, you will not be unbanned.

Vivlady, did you see this?

Sixix
11th October 2006, 05:03 AM
err..doesn't cw or revo provide proof of bans if requested?ive never seen any. have you seen them? perhaps even here on GUA?
please link them and we can see what you are talking about ;)

Dareth
11th October 2006, 05:38 AM
I dont know what y'alls problem is. KoC is dying anyway. Anygame where you have to rely on others for your position is not worth my time. There is no skill involved in KoC anymore. Vivylady. I can understand where you are coming from, but, having been in LaCN for the whole time i played KoC. I can honestly say, if the leaders decide something, you have no hope of changing their minds. They know what is best for the whole world, becoz a bunch of people with nothing better to do than sit on their butts and click agreed to give them control...

Just move on, LaCN will go back to where it started, and this whole fiasco will be forgotten, or better yet, you could find some other online game, that truly tests your skill...

Dareth
11th October 2006, 05:44 AM
And, as some people have said, it is no longer a democracy over their, if it ever was. Part of the reason i left KoC...

Zeta-kun
11th October 2006, 06:52 AM
well..its kinda obvious if she gets a message saying 'You have been banned for faking'
err..doesn't cw or revo provide proof of bans if requested?

and if noone knows, then it must be lousy admining of lacn recruiter and banning people for the sake of it with no proof
viv is not conteder for number 1 nor a threat in war so why would lacn admins want so ban her?
if 5 of your officers or 10 players on your chain fake then its pretty logical to ban you and/or your whole chain.

Dareth
11th October 2006, 07:46 AM
Well, that depends on how big the chain is doesnt it. If there are 100 people, then why take 100 people of the click list?

rdj
11th October 2006, 07:57 AM
Umm, the point on a few members fake clicking is irrelevant, seeing as the faking officers for which she was banned are not her officers at all (thought that point would have been obvious).

ms_fishy
11th October 2006, 08:54 AM
for those of you who are in LaCN:

stop replying to these jackals... it's well known that BSS supports cheaters and fake clickers (ie TLE, Euthie, etc).. so what's another fake clicker in their chain? maybe if they spent more time on the battlefield instead of gua whining, then BSS wouldnt be such a push-over chain as it is now


to ELO

why does it come back to bss? you amazed me!

for the record

Name: im_a_sab_biatch
Commander: mR_mOtA_hEaD
Race: Elves
Rank: 11,982
Highest Rank 6,866 / 4 days ago
Army Size: 11,146

viv is not in bss chain - as far as im concerned i dont sab or get sabbed for her - she's a friend of bon and that's the only relationship we got

PS: and you must have been on something to say bss supports cheaters and fake clickers - as far as i know bonsai is one of the cleanest players around here and hes made it clear that he doesnt condone cheating - in fact, he's the only reason i'm not massing you guys and our other enemies with 50 slayer accounts.. and no, i dont fakeclick - i dont think anyone in our chain does either

PSS: i'm behind on sabbing - irc has been screwy lately and sabbing alone aint that much fun - but im still on it ;)

fluffy
11th October 2006, 09:45 AM
for those of you who are in LaCN:

stop replying to these jackals... it's well known that BSS supports cheaters and fake clickers (ie TLE, Euthie, etc).. so what's another fake clicker in their chain? maybe if they spent more time on the battlefield instead of gua whining, then BSS wouldnt be such a push-over chain as it is now

now, i want my good little kids to begin spamming again (monkey boi, lolita, vvlady, and scooter) ... it makes me hawt under the balls and in some ways i think it slows down my balding

lol, this thread is so like a lot of gua threads, pointless. all the time i have known steph she has never faked or even entertained any form of cheating unlike others in this game. Considering how little she clicks because of her r/l, i think merv should give her a little slack, rather than treat her like dirt just because other people have been caught faking.

As to the quote above, I find it laughable that bss could be accused of cheating, there are one of the few chains that doesnt condone any sort of cheating whatsoever and i have seen members massed and dismissed from chain once they have been found out.

Loki-of-Chaos
11th October 2006, 11:14 AM
for those of you who are in LaCN:
maybe if they spent more time on the battlefield instead of gua whining, then BSS wouldnt be such a push-over chain as it is now


You should follow your own advice before you give it. And funny the bss bashing. You think people have already forgotten one of your leader's banking discrepencies giving you sainthood again? LOL But to be expected from a top Elite Verbal Sabber.

To get back on topic:

If their not going to unbann you Vivlady why not chain & farm them? Or are you already? :bolt:

Stes: I'm already sabbing your minions 10 to 1, what more do you want?

~Stes_The_Destroyer~
11th October 2006, 11:19 AM
why dont you get of your ass and do some sabbing on us?

i gotta say bss have a few cheats in one way or another inchain but they just aint been found out about by bon otherwise would av been kicked as i know bon enough to know he is anti-cheat :)

rdj
11th October 2006, 06:13 PM
Aaaaannnddd....closed. I really don't see the point of keeping this open, as the last page or so has contained nothing relevant to the topic at hand.