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MysteryQuest
25th June 2006, 08:53 AM
Originally I first posted this on our TBA forums, but here a copy, it's about attack weirdness:

"I don't know how it is possible, but this is a warning for the slayers out here, look at these logs:

The first:

1 day ago Death_Link 12,696,101 Gold stolen 15 15 19 14,712,591 54,503,519 details
1 day ago Demon-Slayer 8,978,217 Gold stolen 15 2 48 32,046,348 35,397,190 details
1 day ago unscrupulous 8,243,216 Gold stolen 15 96 15 19,952,047 50,484,350 details
1 day ago LorDracken 9,418,238 Gold stolen 15 229 37 29,236,730 54,249,623 details

That the attack formulas did change is already know, usually we know use 60% of our power, than was 70% before and even 75% in Age 3 beta. But this attack was only with 40 - 45% of my power, weird stuff. I won so I didn't really care about and didn't notice it after I found this one.

Second:

8 minutes ago CuTeChaDo Attack defended 15 20 53 59,351,476 51,208,056 details
9 minutes ago chocolatefinger 10,137,258 Gold stolen 15 12 35 25,350,348 58,318,124 details

The second guy I spied right before the attack. The guy had 76 milion DA, my SA was 84 milion. Usually this should be safe. Expected results would be: Between: 51,2 milion and 56,6, for my oponenent and between 56,6 and 62,6. To follow the formulas as in allmost all other attacks. I should actually win always. But this is completly stupid. So I warn all slayers here that you are never safe."

GynoStretcher
25th June 2006, 11:59 PM
You didn't say how many soldiers you had, or how many they had ...and I'm too lazy to go look. You probably already know this, but the formula is only consistent when your TFF is smaller than the person you are attacking.

MysteryQuest
26th June 2006, 03:00 AM
That's wrong, that's about how many gold you can steal, not about your effective SA. Also my TFF was smaller than the other people, because else I wouldn't attack them. I saw on our own forums already an another report, confirming this weirdness.

Please don't react with n00b posts on this topic, because this is a serious weird issue for slayers.

the_forgotten
26th June 2006, 07:03 AM
yes this has been noted by me and my chain were basicly spys and slayers
some of our attacks have been defended
when you have 20 mill plus sa to their da and they win their is a problem

targets da
Defensive Action 54,763,204
my sa was around 87 mil its now a lot higher lol

Attack defended 15 31 167 62,345,347 60,203,859

so their is a problem first off the guy only had 54 mill da but his da in the attack was a lot higher ????

somethings very wrong with koc first it was spying now attacking

maybe we should all become sad bankers and rankers not

shadow_walker0
26th June 2006, 08:26 AM
Many of my officers are getting this problem where the Attack Defended DA is much higher then the Spied DA. If you ask me this is crap and should be fixed pronto.

Archer
26th June 2006, 08:56 AM
Isnt it to dowith untrained soldiers - who dont show up as DA... unless attacked?

daddio
26th June 2006, 10:50 AM
Originally I first posted this on our TBA forums, but here a copy, it's about attack weirdness:

"I don't know how it is possible, but this is a warning for the slayers out here, look at these logs:

The first:

1 day ago Death_Link 12,696,101 Gold stolen 15 15 19 14,712,591 54,503,519 details
1 day ago Demon-Slayer 8,978,217 Gold stolen 15 2 48 32,046,348 35,397,190 details
1 day ago unscrupulous 8,243,216 Gold stolen 15 96 15 19,952,047 50,484,350 details
1 day ago LorDracken 9,418,238 Gold stolen 15 229 37 29,236,730 54,249,623 details

That the attack formulas did change is already know, usually we know use 60% of our power, than was 70% before and even 75% in Age 3 beta. But this attack was only with 40 - 45% of my power, weird stuff. I won so I didn't really care about and didn't notice it after I found this one.

Second:

8 minutes ago CuTeChaDo Attack defended 15 20 53 59,351,476 51,208,056 details
9 minutes ago chocolatefinger 10,137,258 Gold stolen 15 12 35 25,350,348 58,318,124 details

The second guy I spied right before the attack. The guy had 76 milion DA, my SA was 84 milion. Usually this should be safe. Expected results would be: Between: 51,2 milion and 56,6, for my oponenent and between 56,6 and 62,6. To follow the formulas as in allmost all other attacks. I should actually win always. But this is completly stupid. So I warn all slayers here that you are never safe."
Based on the formula's I've known since last age, 76 vs 84 would not have been safe last age, either.


yes this has been noted by me and my chain were basicly spys and slayers
some of our attacks have been defended
when you have 20 mill plus sa to their da and they win their is a problem

targets da
Defensive Action 54,763,204
my sa was around 87 mil its now a lot higher lol

Attack defended 15 31 167 62,345,347 60,203,859

so their is a problem first off the guy only had 54 mill da but his da in the attack was a lot higher ????

somethings very wrong with koc first it was spying now attacking

maybe we should all become sad bankers and rankers not
It's the percentage, not the absolute difference. 87 vs. 54 would have been a close call last age (although defending with higher than your DA does appear to be a problem - unless untrained soldiers is the difference).

the_forgotten
26th June 2006, 04:10 PM
It's the percentage, not the absolute difference. 87 vs. 54 would have been a close call last age (although defending with higher than your DA does appear to be a problem - unless untrained soldiers is the difference).

i only attacked players with lots lower than my sa to da last age
and i didnt do much attacking so didnt have it happen

but i think something is wrong how can you have more da
i know one account i attacked was trained down
maybe 100 men untrained
my tff was smaller than theirs by over half
so 100 or so untrained men wont make difference

maybe this is some thing new added to combat multi slayer accounts
that then get sold off to someones main account
so maybe admin added something to combat this
that means someone else has moaned to admin about cheats

then every legit slayer and attacking player suffers cos of it