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Xv_raven_vX
23rd September 2004, 07:13 PM
Haha, Well I have a story and then a question.

Two days ago I came home from school. Did the usual, went upstairs and got on the computer, homework, then do whatever. But this time, my whole screen was filled up pop ups. *sighs* So I said to myself "meh, not that big of a deal, I've dealt with Spyware and Adware many times." Well, turns out no matter what I did, I couldn't rid myself of everything. I deleted MalWare, Enigma, eZula, bargain buddy, midaddle, bundles, Incredifind, WinTools, Hotbar, several registry keys, several cookies, and much more that I'd probably remember later but I don't feel like writing down. Anyway, the two i couldn't get rid of were under these urls:





Http://www.ad-w-a-r-e.com/cgi-bin/popupv22ID={16bfd861-0d95-119-8ca8-005f2cd51f1}&AD=CYdoor- Microsoft Internet Explorer


http://www.PSHw6510990nmo-34nve770.net1go.php?=1=0019- Microsoft Internet Explorer




My sister decided that she knew more then me. So of course she hopped on it while I wasn't here. She deleted files she wasn't suppost to and screwed the computer up. So I put in a recovery disk, recovered everything and when I went to install my Microsoft Network, it said the installer was gone. I was like what the hell. My sister had deleted components that would only be able to be installed if I formatted EVERYTHING on my computer. So I had to format and recover everything on my computer. In the process I lost all my works of art I did. Anyway, watch out for those websites. If you have something wrong with your computer, and those pop up, I am sorry and good luck. This is my 6th time restoring my computer and in all my experience dealing with Adware and SpyWare on my computer, it has never been this bad. Get this: I was scrolling down in the explore menu. As I was scrolling down, new programs were installing themselves and popping up under program files. I was actually watching programs popping up and explorer was refreshing itself constantly. It was the craziest thing I'd ever seen my computer do. Now my computer is fixed, it's acting like brand new. So I guess all that's left is re-creating everything I had on here.

Moral of the story: If you mess with something too long, you'll probably screw it up. -Murphy's Law

Edit:
What would be an easy way to get rid of this if it happens again?


-andrew

Aun Shi
23rd September 2004, 08:31 PM
Burned...Your sister pwned you. =D

I'm sorry for your loss...but...all spyware is pretty easy to get rid of...if you know what you are doing.

White_Hindu
23rd September 2004, 09:56 PM
I'm afraid your problem is a little deeper than "Worthless Adware"--as worthless as it may be. You need to realize the smartest thing any computer user can do in regards to malicious content--Smart Computing Techniques. Once you realize that you shouldn't be installing all these things to view websites, once you stop downloading your free games from kazaa, once you stop agreeing to all content on those porn sites, the only problem in you computer will be hardware based.

Think about that one.

Techno-Vamp
24th September 2004, 12:52 AM
Haha, Well I have a story and then a question.

Two days ago I came home from school. Did the usual, went upstairs and got on the computer, homework, then do whatever. But this time, my whole screen was filled up pop ups. *sighs* So I said to myself "meh, not that big of a deal, I've dealt with Spyware and Adware many times." Well, turns out no matter what I did, I couldn't rid myself of everything. I deleted MalWare, Enigma, eZula, bargain buddy, midaddle, bundles, Incredifind, WinTools, Hotbar, several registry keys, several cookies, and much more that I'd probably remember later but I don't feel like writing down. Anyway, the two i couldn't get rid of were under these urls:





Http://www.ad-w-a-r-e.com/cgi-bin/popupv22ID={16bfd861-0d95-119-8ca8-005f2cd51f1}&AD=CYdoor- Microsoft Internet Explorer


http://www.PSHw6510990nmo-34nve770.net1go.php?=1=0019- Microsoft Internet Explorer




My sister decided that she knew more then me. So of course she hopped on it while I wasn't here. She deleted files she wasn't suppost to and screwed the computer up. So I put in a recovery disk, recovered everything and when I went to install my Microsoft Network, it said the installer was gone. I was like what the hell. My sister had deleted components that would only be able to be installed if I formatted EVERYTHING on my computer. So I had to format and recover everything on my computer. In the process I lost all my works of art I did. Anyway, watch out for those websites. If you have something wrong with your computer, and those pop up, I am sorry and good luck. This is my 6th time restoring my computer and in all my experience dealing with Adware and SpyWare on my computer, it has never been this bad. Get this: I was scrolling down in the explore menu. As I was scrolling down, new programs were installing themselves and popping up under program files. I was actually watching programs popping up and explorer was refreshing itself constantly. It was the craziest thing I'd ever seen my computer do. Now my computer is fixed, it's acting like brand new. So I guess all that's left is re-creating everything I had on here.

Moral of the story: If you mess with something too long, you'll probably screw it up. -Murphy's Law

Edit:
What would be an easy way to get rid of this if it happens again?


-andrew


Ok right know I am still dealing with all the popups. I also have programs that I just cant delet even if I go into my system and clear out like almost everything. I even deal with like popup blockers that work worth sh*t for the most part.

Flocito
24th September 2004, 01:00 AM
Ever thought about trying an internet browser that wasn't called IE? Maybe look into something like Firefox that has built in pop-up blockers and doesn't let half of the spyware/adware out there self-install?

As for removing the spyware, there is always Ad-aware and Spybot Search & Destroy.

White_Hindu
24th September 2004, 01:06 AM
I still find it hilarious that I can use IE, and the only spyware anything picks up is some cookie that doesn't mean anything. Seriously, safe computer usage techniques is all you need to keep your computer free of any spyware/adware.

Techno-Vamp
24th September 2004, 01:25 AM
Ever thought about trying an internet browser that wasn't called IE? Maybe look into something like Firefox that has built in pop-up blockers and doesn't let half of the spyware/adware out there self-install?

As for removing the spyware, there is always Ad-aware and Spybot Search & Destroy.




I do use spyware search and destroy. Its like it just keeps coming back.

omega
24th September 2004, 02:48 AM
Then you should enable teatimer, stop using IE, or disable activex. Instructions on all of those are available from:
teatimer - help menu in spybot search and destroy.
using another browser - other spyware threads in this forum.
disabling activex - other spyware threads in this forum.

Techno-Vamp
24th September 2004, 02:53 AM
Omega, I am starting to have a prob that makes my windows just close like by themselfs. Do you know what might be causeing this????

Bugga
24th September 2004, 06:19 AM
What version of windows are you running.

Phyrus
24th September 2004, 07:43 AM
Moral of the story: If you mess with something too long, you'll probably screw it up. -Murphy's Law

Edit:
What would be an easy way to get rid of this if it happens again?


-andrew

this isnt true, just make sure your sis doesnt touch your comp next time, even if you have to set a password on a user-login you have on your comp if you have one at all.

also next time this happens, activate a firewall, get adaware, spybot search & destroy, and AVG and norton onto your comp. then you should be fine.

also try using mozilla firefox instead of IE, mozilla blocks spyware.

White_Hindu
24th September 2004, 10:43 AM
Ok, I may not be up to date on the latest spyware, but last time I checked, the ONLY way spyware gets on your computer is you put it there yourself(even if inadvertantly). You have stuff installed on your computer, so you install more stuff to get rid of it? Last I heard, it was you who controlled the computer, not the other way around.

Xv_raven_vX
24th September 2004, 03:19 PM
I'm afraid your problem is a little deeper than "Worthless Adware"--as worthless as it may be. You need to realize the smartest thing any computer user can do in regards to malicious content--Smart Computing Techniques. Once you realize that you shouldn't be installing all these things to view websites, once you stop downloading your free games from kazaa, once you stop agreeing to all content on those porn sites, the only problem in you computer will be hardware based.

Think about that one.

As of right now my computer is like a new computer. I totally erased everything on it, and reloaded the original software. I know what to install and what not to install. Unlike most people my age I know what belongs on my computer and what doesn't. I don't download anything besides music off my Window Media Player and I rarely do that anyway. Nothing has ever came off my Window Media Player that has messed up my computer. Also, downloading games isn't an issue, considering I don't play online games anymore. I don't look at porn on computers, I watch it on tv, or I have my girlfriend come over. It's pretty simple. I know what kind of adware and spyware can come from porn sites so I never look at porn on computers. My problem was that my sister believes that because she has graduated, that she knows it all. She goes to all these retarded game sites and downloads files from her email account and it screws this computer up. So when something goes wrong with a computer in my family, it's Andrew to the rescue.


Tytrox,
It's not that simple. My dad won't allow my sister to get on the downstairs computer so he told me to let her on this one. She's 19 years old so you would think she has some common sense but if you assume that, you will be sadly dissapointed. I've argued with my parents and my sister about not doing dumb things on the computer and it's usually in one ear and out the other. Next time this happens, I'm not fixing the computer.



Ok, I may not be up to date on the latest spyware, but last time I checked, the ONLY way spyware gets on your computer is you put it there yourself(even if inadvertantly). You have stuff installed on your computer, so you install more stuff to get rid of it? Last I heard, it was you who controlled the computer, not the other way around.



Accidents happen.

The reason why my computer keeps getting this shit in it is because my sister and my grandma seem to think that they can download anything off the internet. People who get these programs are either too stupid to know that you shouldn't be downloading things or looking at websites you shouldn't be. Or someone else decides to get on your computer and screw it up for you. With me, my sister waited untill I was gone to screw it up. So by the time I got home from school, the damage had already been done. Also, I found out it wasn't just her that messed it up for me. She had her boyfriend jump on here and try to fix it. They decided to delete everything, and I mean everything that had been created/modified from september 20th to september 23rd. So by doing that, they just happened to delete some files they we're supost to and it totally screwed the computer up.

The only programs I use to get rid of my spyware/adware is my brain, McAfee, and Ad-Aware. I don't need anything else.

Shinji
24th September 2004, 06:20 PM
Well if your sister likes to screw with your computer why not gave her a limited accout..........

Also hide all the folders that are important to you...like Window folder, User datas etc..(by hiding means that gave the folder the hidden attribute instead of putting the folder some where else).

and you should install FireFox just like other people had recommanded, it prevents site from installing spy/ad-wares. So when your sister was brosweing random sites you have less chance of getting them..

Techno-Vamp
24th September 2004, 06:36 PM
As of right now my computer is like a new computer. I totally erased everything on it, and reloaded the original software. I know what to install and what not to install. Unlike most people my age I know what belongs on my computer and what doesn't. I don't download anything besides music off my Window Media Player and I rarely do that anyway. Nothing has ever came off my Window Media Player that has messed up my computer. Also, downloading games isn't an issue, considering I don't play online games anymore. I don't look at porn on computers, I watch it on tv, or I have my girlfriend come over. It's pretty simple. I know what kind of adware and spyware can come from porn sites so I never look at porn on computers. My problem was that my sister believes that because she has graduated, that she knows it all. She goes to all these retarded game sites and downloads files from her email account and it screws this computer up. So when something goes wrong with a computer in my family, it's Andrew to the rescue.


Tytrox,
It's not that simple. My dad won't allow my sister to get on the downstairs computer so he told me to let her on this one. She's 19 years old so you would think she has some common sense but if you assume that, you will be sadly dissapointed. I've argued with my parents and my sister about not doing dumb things on the computer and it's usually in one ear and out the other. Next time this happens, I'm not fixing the computer.






Accidents happen.

The reason why my computer keeps getting this shit in it is because my sister and my grandma seem to think that they can download anything off the internet. People who get these programs are either too stupid to know that you shouldn't be downloading things or looking at websites you shouldn't be. Or someone else decides to get on your computer and screw it up for you. With me, my sister waited untill I was gone to screw it up. So by the time I got home from school, the damage had already been done. Also, I found out it wasn't just her that messed it up for me. She had her boyfriend jump on here and try to fix it. They decided to delete everything, and I mean everything that had been created/modified from september 20th to september 23rd. So by doing that, they just happened to delete some files they we're supost to and it totally screwed the computer up.

The only programs I use to get rid of my spyware/adware is my brain, McAfee, and Ad-Aware. I don't need anything else.


I got the one thing called kazza gold, and well some of my old roomates freinds got onto my computer under my name, I think I may have left it on. But anyways I really don't want to go all the way back because I have like so much stuff on it that it would take hours to put it all back on. I have done system restor many times. Were can I find this firefox or whatever it is called????

Xv_raven_vX
24th September 2004, 07:14 PM
I got the one thing called kazza gold, and well some of my old roomates freinds got onto my computer under my name, I think I may have left it on. But anyways I really don't want to go all the way back because I have like so much stuff on it that it would take hours to put it all back on. I have done system restor many times. Were can I find this firefox or whatever it is called????


When you did system restore did you format and recover or just recover?

Format and recover erases everything and restores the software that you originally had on your computer.

recover just replaces missing components and restores files.

At least this is what my recovery disk features. Recovery disks vary with each computer.

Techno-Vamp
24th September 2004, 07:23 PM
When you did system restore did you format and recover or just recover?

Format and recover erases everything and restores the software that you originally had on your computer.

recover just replaces missing components and restores files.

At least this is what my recovery disk features. Recovery disks vary with each computer.


You know to be honest, I think I only did the restore. I will someday soon either change my computer again or just take all the files off that I want and save them to a disk and just take the whole system all the way back to warhouse setup basically. Thanks for pointing that out to me though.

Flocito
25th September 2004, 12:59 AM
Were can I find this firefox or whatever it is called????

Well you can always try your friend
Google. (http://www.google.com)

Or you can go here (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/)

Techno-Vamp
25th September 2004, 09:37 AM
Well you can always try your friend
Google. (http://www.google.com)

Or you can go here (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/)


Ok thanks, I just downloaded it so now I will try it out. Thanks again.