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Swordmaster
16th April 2005, 03:12 PM
I was thinking mabye if you use some extra attack point u can use tactics.
Higher the rank better the tactic u can use.
From end of ranks to rank 1 u can use Flank= Damage: +20 Cost= 1,000 gold Can only be used once a day.
From 80,000 to rank 1 u can use Lay down Hay on battlefield and fire fire arrows at it= Damage: +60 Cost= 4,000 Can only be used once every two days.
From 75,000 to rank 1 u can use Dig under battlefield and hit enemy from behind= Damage: 100 Cost: 10,000 Can only be used once every three days
From 70,000 to rank 1 u can use Ambush= Damage: 150 Cost: None! Can be used once every 4 hours.
Any rank from 10,000 to 1 can use Elephant Charge= Damage: 10,000 Cost:700,000. Can only be used once a week.
1st tactic cost 4 atk point
2nd cost 4 atk point
3rd cost 6 atk point
4th cost 6 atk point
5th cost 10 Atk point.

Foggy weather means +20 damage.(only if weather suggestion comes out)

When weather is windy you cannot use Fire arrows because ur advisors say it might blow back into ur forces

frozen_banana
17th April 2005, 07:13 AM
Lol, I like the idee, but the others just ignored it!! Grrrr... :P

grtz

King_arthur1234
17th April 2005, 10:42 AM
great, now this is a good post swordmaster. i like the idea but i dont know if anyone will support it. u can however make some changes to them as i feel that there is a steep graduation between some tactics. u can make some moderately gradual changes between the costs and effects of the tactics. anyway this a good idea and i really liked it. keep it up like this and i dont feel that this idea can be possibly bogged down.:)

NoKtUrNaL
17th April 2005, 10:46 AM
nice idea here, so these would be selected before attacking someone yes?

Any rank from 10,000 to 1 can use Elephant Charge= Damage: 10,000 Cost:700,000. Can only be used once a week.
i dont know about once a week...a week is a longg time, once a day perhaps?

Good idea overall though

eth
17th April 2005, 11:00 AM
Thanks for thinking swordmaster, but this is not enought to get you off my disrespect list. But its good anyways. Random events have been used in many MMORPGs. Why not introduce it here? Good one. See what patience gives you?

Swordmaster
18th April 2005, 12:22 PM
Ah good i see....Well i will add some tactics, change some things around....Random events eh? I like the idea. Darn i knew i should have made a poll...forget about gold amounts. ranks still in.

Random events- Once every 80 attack turns you use a tactic flank.(Any time during the attack turns.
Once every 160 Attack turns u use Flaming Arrows.
Once every 160 Attack turns u use Dig under.
Once every 200 Attack turns u use Ambush
Once every 200 Attack turns u use Valiant charge.(Damage=200 ranks 65,000to 1)
Once every 10 attacks against u, u can use Knockback(damage=250 ranks 60,000 to1)
Once every 300 Attack turns u use BloodBath. (damage= 300 ranks 50,000 to 1)
Once every 50 attacks against you u use Repel (damage= 350 ranks 40,00 to 1)
Once every 400 Attack turns u use Wrath of Blades(damage= 500 ranks 30,00 to 1)
Once every 800 Attack turns u use Strength of Heroes(damage = 2,000 ranks 20,000 to 1)
Once every 1,200 Attack turns u use Elephant charge)
you will be given a choice whether to use the tactic or not. If u choose to not it then u will be able to use it again when u want to. You can use them any time the message comes up. if ur rank 1 u can use many tactics!
Thanks for the suggestions

King_arthur1234
19th April 2005, 04:38 AM
great work swordmaster, this is a good idea as u thougtht about it patiently. well i feel u should remove the restrictions on the tactics based on ranks. it should be available to everyone based on how much gold u have and all that stuff. but i have one suggestion that maybe u could reduce a bit (not too much) the turns required to use the tactic, it may require too much time to use some more powerful tactics. OR ON SECOND THOUGHT, maybe ur calculations for the turns are right, let the nunmber of turns required be the way they are. anyway this is a good idea and u can hold a poll for this if u want to even now.

Swordmaster
19th April 2005, 11:51 AM
Yeh kk but i will need to make up a gold cost for all the things now...

Name-------------------------Cost

Flank---------------------------1,000 gold
Flaming Arrows------------------4,000 gold
Dig under battlefield-------------10,000 gold
Ambush-------------------------20,000 gold
Valiant charge-------------------30,000 gold
Knockback----------------------40,000 gold
BloodBath------------------------60,000 gold
Repel-----------------------------100,000 gold
Wrath of Blades--------------------150,000 gold
Strength of Heroes------------------250,000 gold
Elephant charge---------------------750,000 gold

Salidos
19th April 2005, 01:54 PM
Perhaps instead of these costing gold they could become available based on how much gold you have. I think this might give people some incentive to hold onto their gold instead of banking it all right away. That way there will be more gold on the battlefield for the taking. Of course something may need to be implemented for defense as well, but I can't think of anything. Also to compensate for the 'tactics' not costing gold it could cost turns perhaps?

So i think the idea is interesting, but I would like to see it tweaked some more. Just a couple thoughts.

King_arthur1234
20th April 2005, 02:18 AM
no i think gold is fine as stacking gold will be too dangerous, and if you wont be able to defend it then it will be disastrous. well there can be changes made to this idea but i think swordmaster has done pretty good calculations about how much gold is needed. but maybe u can decrease the amount of gold only a little bit that is required for each tactic. this idea is also as good as the recruiting creatures idea. these two ideas and the undead race will make KoC an even better game than it is now.

Swordmaster
20th April 2005, 03:29 AM
Flank---------------------------1,000 gold
Flaming Arrows------------------4,000 gold
Dig under battlefield-------------8,000 gold
Ambush-------------------------15,000 gold
Valiant charge-------------------25,000 gold
Knockback----------------------40,000 gold
BloodBath------------------------60,000 gold
Repel-----------------------------80,000 gold
Wrath of Blades--------------------100,000 gold
Strength of Heroes------------------150,000 gold
Elephant charge---------------------350,000 gold

Better?

Swordmaster
20th April 2005, 12:19 PM
i make poll now

King_arthur1234
21st April 2005, 04:48 AM
maybe we should have tactics in Age 5 it will make the game even more interesting. mainly it can make the battles, a little unpredictable. right now battles are completely based on statistical figures but if u use one of the tactics then it can boost your SA or DA for some time so u can defeat some ppl whose DA is not much bigger than yours. and also defend attacks from others even if they have a SA a bit larger than your DA. u have a good idea here swordmaster and great work done in making the calculations for gold required. the names are also good.

Swordmaster
22nd April 2005, 11:10 AM
thanks

Swordmaster
30th April 2005, 09:17 AM
havent got any posts here for a while :D

One
30th April 2005, 10:02 PM
might be a complicating factor, but I like the idea. this would make things more interesting for sure.