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Monsuco
23rd March 2005, 04:53 PM
Ok I have seen a million of those threads saying "Help me I just joined". To answer some questions how about those of you who have played for a while post recomendations for starting out. Don't tell other players they are wrong :shame: just give your recomendations :thumbsup: . Thank you.
Here are some of my recomendations please read all of them even if you don't think you need to (I am talking to the beginers):

Signing up:
1. Before you start an account you need to read the help section at KoC (Kings of Chaos). It tells you the basics.
2. If you have a friend who told you about this and asked you to be an "officer" don't sign up yet. Ask your friend to write down something called a "unique link". If you don't want to join under a friend then ignore this step.
3. If you click a unique link you should get a page with some image and numbers. This may look weird but follow the directions. Click on the number that the letters in the image spell out. As in question 2 if you don't want to be an officer ignore this step.
4. If you have clicked the link then click "Join the War" in red. If you aren't clicking a link go to KoC (www.kingsofchaos.com) and click register. Either way you get a screen asking for you to create a name. You may need to try this several times as several names are taken. You will also see some letters that look weird. This is an anticheater thing. Type in the text box next to it whatever appears in the weird font. You may need to redo this as some letters look simmilar. You also create a password. I think passwords need to be at least 8 letters long and have caps and lower case in them. You also need to give them your e-mail. If you don't have one you can use this site: www.mailinator.com Choose a race. The bonuses are
Humans: Get 20% more money (called gold) than others each turn.
Dwarves: Do 35% better at stopping enemy attacks.
Elves: Do 22% better at spying on, sabbatoging, and stopping spying and sabbatoging.
Orcs: Do 30% better at attacking and taking gold from others.
Once you register:
5. Go to your e-mail and read the letter KoC sent you (ajust your spam/controls if needed.) If nothing is there yet remain calm. It takes a little time sometimes.
6. Click the link in the letter.
7. Go back to KoC and sign in with your nickname, e-mail, and password.
Once you sign in:
8. Congrats! You have an account! :wacko: Ok. In your account you have a menue to the left. You have banners to the top and side and you should have a link at the bottom of the webpage. Go click that link. If you clicked on a friends link this page should look simmilar. This is your "unique link". You should first set this to your favorites folder on your web browser. Click on the number that corresponds to the immage. You get a soldier from this!
9. From here Look at this thing under the menu on the left. (Not the ads) You should see this thing saying 20 turns and saying a certain number of gold and messages.
10. I reccomend clicking on training in the lefthand menu.
11. I recoment clicking "upgrade unit production" This will make it so you get 5 soldiers every day. You get one more from clicking your unique link every 24 hours (not every day every 24 hours exactly and nobody really knows why (if you do pm me)).
12. I recomend training a spy (this will let you see the amount of gold SOME other accounts have.
13. If you have enough money go to the armory (look in the menu) and buy a knife or stick.
13. Click on attack and go back for a few pages. Attack someone (click on them) who has a lot of gold. You will go to a page asking for you to say how many turns you want and such. Attack the guy (I reccomend 15 turns). If you win you get some gold. If not you don't. Either way you loose the turns. A turn occours every 25 or so minutes. You get some gold and a turn from them. You should use your last 5 or so turns up in a simmilar way (only you can use only that many turns) and then go to the armory. If you have enough upgrade either your attack or defense (I recomend attack right now) and repair your weapon(s). Go to the training page if you don't have enough for one of those upgrades you may be able to upgrade your spy.
14. Log out and look for more info at the forums on how to play or read some other recomendations.

silica
23rd March 2005, 05:22 PM
thats a good start but for begginers most of them just want to spend gold on armory but make sure u spend gold on upgrading sentry levels and defences don't forget to save your money and buy sentry/spy tools!!

Xer0n
23rd March 2005, 06:07 PM
if your new... CLICK ALOT! you cant get enything without gold ;) and TBG helps u get more gold faster

kaka duck
23rd March 2005, 06:25 PM
i use to think that the newbie should spend their first purchase on 'unit production.'

but not anymore.

eSPECIALLY for newnew players.

reason being, is that when new players first start the game, they need something that would draw them in right away.

something that's initially interesting. otherwise, they'll lose interest right away.

since, if they spent their first purchase on the unit production -- that's 45k right there. what are they left with?

5k.

5k to to train 1 soldier and 1 weapon/armor.

then what..?

it's better if they train at least 1 soldier in each stat, and then purchase 1 good weapon and armor.

after which, they can go and attack and start stealing other newbie's gold. and since they first purchased a good weapon, it's likely that they'll succeed.

by doing that -- by getting into the 'action' right away; the game is immediately 'opened' to the newbie.

after that, is when they can get into the subtleties of the game.

silica
23rd March 2005, 06:32 PM
you make a good point but what happens when the next day they have no gold and can't do any thing if you spent gold on more soldiers you could at least by a few weapons or upgrade soldiers so if newbies have patience they should spend gold on upgrading unit production

kaka duck
23rd March 2005, 08:19 PM
you make a good point but what happens when the next day they have no gold and can't do any thing if you spent gold on more soldiers you could at least by a few weapons or upgrade soldiers so if newbies have patience they should spend gold on upgrading unit production


point taken.

which is why they attack again=)

and all the while, they should be bothering all their friends to click their link.

besides, the game has to first be appealing to the newbie -- in order to retain them..

Monsuco
23rd March 2005, 09:49 PM
point taken.
besides, the game has to first be appealing to the newbie -- in order to retain them..
Well noobs in this game are often asked to join by a friend who hopefully tell them to keep trying.

kaka duck
23rd March 2005, 10:53 PM
Well noobs in this game are often asked to join by a friend who hopefully tell them to keep trying.


not everyone that joins up are invited.

heh.. besides, honestly, do you think you can force a friend to continue playing a game that they find no interest in..?

riddle
24th March 2005, 12:15 AM
getting on a clicker as soon as possible for the first extra soldiers is important so more gold will come in.

for the 50k you start with i think it doesn't matter too much just spend it quick. i don't think the unit upgrade is a good deal when you start since 50k later will be very little gold and 5 soldiers are easy to get and lose through clicking and attacks.
since someone can take your gold regardless of what you spend it on it is more important to spend it quickly. i think on sentry and defence (training to spy also works) to avoid being attacked

MrMastodonFarm
24th March 2005, 12:26 AM
And of course we all know that the stat that is guaranteed to drop steadily once you start playing is . . . Hours Slept

bega
24th March 2005, 02:46 AM
Because it fastens things up, you get more TBG to buy more weapons and train your soldiers. Last age, I didn't want to click and I was slow in progression, this age, I see there are very good recruiters to make a large army and get a good TBG, and buy better weapons, and get a good ranking in the end.

Monsuco
24th March 2005, 06:28 AM
heh.. besides, honestly, do you think you can force a friend to continue playing a game that they find no interest in..?
actually I have kept playing several video games that seemed terrible at first but my friends kept telling me they would be better once time had passed.
Usually they were right.
:thumbsup:
Oh and let me just say the reason I told them how to register is because noobs will think they can just join and they are automaticly their friends officer. Then they have to waste a command change to fix it. While I'm saying this I need to mention you only get two changes a year and ditching one commander and joining under a new one counts as two changes. You have to change all at once.

Frieskist
24th March 2005, 06:53 AM
For beginners its hard to choose. It will help to start with clickig alot, i agree. But its also really helpful when you got a lot of spy and sentry's. This, in combination with a high spy-level, will make you to hold on to your money a longer time.
Also do defense, 4 times more than attack, at least at the beginning. When entered the game, attacking is really nice.

pitagora
24th March 2005, 08:30 AM
my advice for noobs is to spend the 50k on spy upgrades and them build up sentry. Click like mad for a few days untill you reach 10K soldiers then you should allready have a nice tbg and afford lots of nice things. All this can be made in 3 days.

kaka duck
24th March 2005, 09:43 AM
my advice for noobs is to spend the 50k on spy upgrades and them build up sentry. Click like mad for a few days untill you reach 10K soldiers then you should allready have a nice tbg and afford lots of nice things. All this can be made in 3 days.

that strategy may best be reserved for the more 'seasonal' player.

but for a newbie, they're not gonna wanna click "like mad." they'd wanna get into the gist of the game.

taking 3 days to juss 'start' a game is not fun for many people -- especially if they dun fully understand what they're building.

bloodpirate
24th March 2005, 12:09 PM
For a new player with no experience, he should have fairly balanced stats. his sentry and attack would be first priority after his first initial purchases. this will help him get more gold and to hide his gold from others. clicking is very important to get more troops meaning more gold per turn. log in about every 6 hours to spend (bank what gold you get) and use attack turns sparingly as they will get you more gold later. remember that the smaller your army is the more percentage gold you steal from people with larger armies.

xD00M
24th March 2005, 01:19 PM
It depends if youre starting near the beginning of the age or later.

Beginning: Get TONs of soldiers from clickers to get the ball rolling, then attack people when you see people with a good amount of gold, but for the first few days, play defense. You wont be able to attack people for much gold.

Middle/End: Dont worry about clicking just yet. Just click your own link, train a spy and attack specialist, and hunt for gold. Try to steal gold. The reason it is not a good idea to click right away is because if you do, you will get a high TBG and lots of soldiers, you wont be able to train them all right away, and since people have train most of their soldiers by that time, you will become a farm unless you log in all the time. And you wont be able to attack for gold.

Im a very attack prone player and if you are too, i would suggest this.

silica
24th March 2005, 01:31 PM
I think if you are invited in by a friend you should work on upgrading spies that way your friend can tell you it gets better once you get more soldiers but if a person just comes in he should not upgrade anything and get a few weapons and soldiers and start attacking that way they get interested since there aren't any pictures to interest someone you can attack

I think when you attack you should see a quick cutseen of an attack

kaka duck
24th March 2005, 02:11 PM
but if a person just comes in he should not upgrade anything and get a few weapons and soldiers and start attacking that way they get interested since there aren't any pictures to interest someone you can attack



exactly my point.

since, most everyone is not an avid strategy/rpg player. they need some initial element of the game to be thrilling (at first).

Monsuco
24th March 2005, 02:51 PM
Which is a problem for many RPGs. They tend to be low action at the start. Attack is probably good. Size is good. I don't see much reason for sentry at the start because they don't serve much point with little to sabatoge. At the start one spy is usually good but too many and bye bye attack. Also any opinions on a good beginer race and a good stat to rely on with particular races. I think orcs are good beginner races. Humans can be too. Elves are not good at the start without having much to sabatoge. (If you try to sab another beginer of a knife it may not work if that knife is too valuable). Dwarves aren't good to start with because there is little to defend.
I would be happy to hear recomendations on this topic too.

Thanks to those of you who are experianced enough to give advice for posting it here. I hope to be able to get alot of questions beginners have answered so it will both help them play and stop them from all from posting a bunch of "how do I play" questions here. That way you don't need to look all over the barracks forum for an answer for every single game concept.